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MantisWorx 08-13-2012 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by fq06 (Post 11089039)
You are in error if you make an assessment of the part from this experience because something was wrong if it could not make any of the jumps let alone the "simple" jumps.

Not possible with the C-Diff. Slower times? I could see that as a possibility, maybe it didn't match his driving style and he was faster with a slipper... sure, no problem.
But could not make any jump that a slipper could means it was not installed correctly or we are being told something that is not true.

Opposite for me, I started making the most difficult jump after changing to the C-Diff that I was not able to make without.

You have a poor argument as you still have not tried the part that you say does not work. Your opinion is flawed as you still have not tried the product and have not seen a good representation of it's performance.

Or as mantis said you lied... why? Don't know why you would lie about something that does not personally affect you or your finances, I dont know you and can not say if that was a lie but to say that the C-Diff made the truck not able to clear a "simple" jump just is not possible if assembled even close to correct. Even without the pins you would not have any issues clearing jumps. Maybe if the rcshox team driver forgot the balls? (left your balls at home when you came to compete? :lol:)

I know this because I reassembled after a teardown and installed the spur backwards so the pins were on the leading side, not the correct trailing side of the ball. That means that regardless of how many pins I had in it, zero were having any affect on the balls. I did notice the handling was different, but there was little to no difference on jumps.

A majority of the content here is opinion and everyone has a right to theirs, but I don't see how you can give an opinion on something that you have zero personal experience with. And you state it as a fact.

If you refuse to try a product and have no experience to base an opinion on, stop issuing opinions on it till you try it.

You say you have to steer everyone to VTS. That is not helping people on this forum as you are giving an uneducated guess. If someone says they tried C-Diff and don't like it, that is adding value to this thread because they have tried the part.

Very well put, i dont know why WC has a personal vendetta against me in the first place i guess jealousy exist on different levels for different people.It is what it is though because everytime he opens his mouth my sales go up from curiosity so thank you WC , keep lying my family appreciates it!

ilanstylz 08-13-2012 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by RossNZ (Post 11090820)
[IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/dy5g8k.jpg[/IMG]

The saddles were sitting on top of a 3mm plate I had inside the chassis, I have removed all of that now and have the saddles sitting on the Alloy, with the plastic chassis out I have lowered the battery's and ESC by 5.5mm, with all the weight down low.

Not bad looking, let us know how it runs at a track. And if you don't mind asking what was the total cost to do this mod and if it works out well is it something you may make and sell per request?

Wild Cherry 08-13-2012 09:37 PM

Mantis


I have very little interest in you or carry any disrespect for .:nod:


Before you diss me more


I only told Cain the truth & why I have not even consider using your part .


Understand he's been asking ...

more than one post in fact ...;)


Please note :

I never said "cheese" till now ....:D:lol:

RossNZ 08-13-2012 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by ilanstylz (Post 11090857)
Not bad looking, let us know how it runs at a track. And if you don't mind asking what was the total cost to do this mod and if it works out well is it something you may make and sell per request?

Last meeting I ran I was side by side with a few Losi's, thru our six pack of jumps you could see how much better their weight advantage worked, they were planted like my E buggy, my SC10 was all over the place, I decided on the drivers stand to sort this out, now that I have the slipper set up sorted and keeping this truck I don't mind doing more work to it. Lowering the weight will work, it just has to be better in any RC car, my truck was 6.145 pounds before I started RTR, and now will be about 6.160, think it's still lighter than most. Going to scale it and try to get it 50/50 if I can. Had the 3mm Alloy in the shed from my 1.1 racing days so cost me nothing, any metal work shop would give you an off cut and easy to make it.
I'd like to know what guys trucks weigh please, RTR.

nicholasxuu 08-14-2012 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by RossNZ (Post 11090998)
I'd like to know what guys trucks weigh please, RTR.


stock form, 2866g. (stick pack front position, esc put to the front)
left/right weight distribution: 50/50
front/rear weight distribution: 45/55

to make it 50/50 front/rear. you will need 10% of the truck's weight,
that's 287g at the front wheel axle, not very possible.

scr8pn4205 08-14-2012 05:06 AM

Slipper or Ball diff isnt gonna fix a bad suspension setup. Just sayin. Thats why they allow you to change things on it to make it work for you. Lets get back to setups that work

Oasis 08-14-2012 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by nicholasxuu (Post 11091189)
stock form, 2866g. (stick pack front position, esc put to the front)
left/right weight distribution: 50/50
front/rear weight distribution: 45/55

to make it 50/50 front/rear. you will need 10% of the truck's weight,
that's 287g at the front wheel axle, not very possible.

So much for the lightweight deal..My Losi weighs less..:lol:
My SC-10 is at 6.14 pounds and I thought mine was heavy..guess not, but I don't think the weight hurts it as far as performance goes..with as much power as we run the "extra" weight seems to help calm it down..

Oasis 08-14-2012 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by scr8pn4205 (Post 11091582)
Slipper or Ball diff isnt gonna fix a bad suspension setup. Just sayin. Thats why they allow you to change things on it to make it work for you. Lets get back to setups that work

But the diff fluids & slipper/center diff do affect the overall handling of your Truck, for the most the suspension set ups are pretty simple..let some else drive your SC and watch how it works (it does help to let someone who can wheel drive it)..after a while you can get it pretty spot on..I'm still workin on the diff/slipper set ups..but I'm gettin pretty close..

scr8pn4205 08-14-2012 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Oasis (Post 11091802)
But the diff fluids & slipper/center diff do affect the overall handling of your Truck, for the most the suspension set ups are pretty simple..let some else drive your SC and watch how it works (it does help to let someone who can wheel drive it)..after a while you can get it pretty spot on..I'm still workin on the diff/slipper set ups..but I'm gettin pretty close..

I can wheel and dont need to have someone else drive my truck. The diff front and rear I understand also.

Cain 08-14-2012 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by big_ads (Post 11088937)
It isn't so much a jump in the traditional sense of the word. Its more like a pit three feet deep in the track with a little bit of a lip on the leading edge to get some air. Probably 2 and a half to three feet wide.

It is on the big sweeper of the track in between the tabletop and a banked corner leading onto a 150 ft back straight. Its essentially in the middle of a 3/4 oval all the way around the outside edge of the track so you hit it about as fast as your truck will go.

The day the Cain and I are talking about had 20 mph gusts that came at an angle across that part of the track from the outside of the lane to the inside...and we were jumping right into it. My MBX-6 Eco was affected by the wind that day...just a tough one for shortcourse all around.

Got the setup sheet, big thanks!

Yeah, there were some killer gusts for sure, but fun as always LOL. Just happy we made it out of the main without the monsoon hitting us like it did 1/8 scale.

CraigMBA 08-14-2012 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by scr8pn4205 (Post 11091833)
I can wheel and dont need to have someone else drive my truck. The diff front and rear I understand also.

I used to believe that lie before I got a Gopro.

If you take the time to actually watch the video, it's amazing how much you can learn.

Evil Genius jr. 08-14-2012 07:52 AM

Practice analyze this truck :
+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


My truck isn't setup like that now and I know what I changed to make it good so lets see if your right :) (Not you craig, anybody who wants too.)

Wild Cherry 08-14-2012 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by scr8pn4205 (Post 11091582)
Slipper or Ball diff isnt gonna fix a bad suspension setup. Just sayin. Thats why they allow you to change things on it to make it work for you. Lets get back to setups that work

Tires 40%
Set-up 10%
Driver 50%



This is how it I look at it ...

scr8pn4205 08-14-2012 08:18 AM

Over driving the lines, too much trigger finger

Evil Genius jr. 08-14-2012 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by scr8pn4205 (Post 11092146)
Over driving the lines, too much trigger finger

Well we all already knew I can't drive lol


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