want to go 1/8 electric buggy
#16
tekin
What every I go with I plan on the tekin rx8 system pro. 2050kv
#17
Get the most expensive everything.
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#20
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If you go with any of the Tekno V4 conversions a single 4S pack is the only way to go.
The Tekno V4 D8 conversion of a Hara D8 is IMHO the best out there right now! TONS of setups and they just are fun to drive! A Good 4S will set ya back $65-$75 so that aint bad at all!
I have that setup with Tekin RX8/T8 1900kv and it RIPS! Just put a decent servo in it and you are GTG! Very stable, it turns great, and it jumps great!
I have Gens ACE 40C 5000mah 4S ($67) in mine and have had zero issues although I am thinking about trying a Turnigy nanotech 6000mah 25C ($65) one of these days...
The Tekno V4 D8 conversion of a Hara D8 is IMHO the best out there right now! TONS of setups and they just are fun to drive! A Good 4S will set ya back $65-$75 so that aint bad at all!
I have that setup with Tekin RX8/T8 1900kv and it RIPS! Just put a decent servo in it and you are GTG! Very stable, it turns great, and it jumps great!
I have Gens ACE 40C 5000mah 4S ($67) in mine and have had zero issues although I am thinking about trying a Turnigy nanotech 6000mah 25C ($65) one of these days...
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If you go with any of the Tekno V4 conversions a single 4S pack is the only way to go.
The Tekno V4 D8 conversion of a Hara D8 is IMHO the best out there right now! TONS of setups and they just are fun to drive! A Good 4S will set ya back $65-$75 so that aint bad at all!
I have that setup with Tekin RX8/T8 1900kv and it RIPS! Just put a decent servo in it and you are GTG! Very stable, it turns great, and it jumps great!
I have Gens ACE 40C 5000mah 4S ($67) in mine and have had zero issues although I am thinking about trying a Turnigy nanotech 6000mah 25C ($65) one of these days...
The Tekno V4 D8 conversion of a Hara D8 is IMHO the best out there right now! TONS of setups and they just are fun to drive! A Good 4S will set ya back $65-$75 so that aint bad at all!
I have that setup with Tekin RX8/T8 1900kv and it RIPS! Just put a decent servo in it and you are GTG! Very stable, it turns great, and it jumps great!
I have Gens ACE 40C 5000mah 4S ($67) in mine and have had zero issues although I am thinking about trying a Turnigy nanotech 6000mah 25C ($65) one of these days...
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For quick RTR entry, try the Vorza. For easy and cheap chassis price, try to Ofna LX1e.
You probably should go with something built to be electric, to avoid the conversion issues. Both of those and the VE8 fill the bill, and have good reliability and easy parts availability.
For electronics, go with equipment that has stood the test of 1/8 racing (Tekin, Castle). I run a Mamba Monster with a Tekin 2050 motor on two-2S packs.
As mentioned before, using two-2S packs also give you a pair of batteries that have some value is you go back to 1/10 scale racing instead, and they work fine.
Good luck. The power and speed are addictive.
You probably should go with something built to be electric, to avoid the conversion issues. Both of those and the VE8 fill the bill, and have good reliability and easy parts availability.
For electronics, go with equipment that has stood the test of 1/8 racing (Tekin, Castle). I run a Mamba Monster with a Tekin 2050 motor on two-2S packs.
As mentioned before, using two-2S packs also give you a pair of batteries that have some value is you go back to 1/10 scale racing instead, and they work fine.
Good luck. The power and speed are addictive.
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Two good candidates: Mugen MBX6 Eco and XRay 808E. Rock solid both of them...
#26
Go for it!! You will find it's a great class and offers a lot of excitement.
Now with that said, you really need to see if it's something you want to dive into. You can get by on "cheap" stuff, but you will find out sooner than later, the cheap stuff will eat up a ton of time, money and energy. 8th scale is a lot more expensive at the end of the day.
I not going to go too far into brands, but first off you need to look at chargers and their capacity.
IMHO a 5 amp AC/DC charger will not cut it for a 4 cell 5200 mah batts. It takes sooo freaking long to charge with this type of charger. 1.5 hours easy.
Any DC charger and power supply with a min of 10 amps - "around" $200.00 for both charger and power supply.
ESC and motor - IMHO stick with Tekin ($329.00) or MMM ($269.00) Others can chime in, but that’s my opinion.
Replacement parts – Factor in all this power wear parts out. Drive train and TIRES get hit more than SC or 1/10 scale. That all depends on how often you drive, but you have to stay on it.
Batteries – 4 cell lipos are more than 2 cell. Cost is all up to you. $50 per back all the way up to $250 per pack.
Good steering servo - $80 is about what you would expect to spend. More if you want more.
Then comes the car kit.
That cost is pretty straight forward. I wanted to touch on more of the other costs that you might not haven seen once you grab the car kit.
I hope it helps and have fun at whatever you decide.
Now with that said, you really need to see if it's something you want to dive into. You can get by on "cheap" stuff, but you will find out sooner than later, the cheap stuff will eat up a ton of time, money and energy. 8th scale is a lot more expensive at the end of the day.
I not going to go too far into brands, but first off you need to look at chargers and their capacity.
IMHO a 5 amp AC/DC charger will not cut it for a 4 cell 5200 mah batts. It takes sooo freaking long to charge with this type of charger. 1.5 hours easy.
Any DC charger and power supply with a min of 10 amps - "around" $200.00 for both charger and power supply.
ESC and motor - IMHO stick with Tekin ($329.00) or MMM ($269.00) Others can chime in, but that’s my opinion.
Replacement parts – Factor in all this power wear parts out. Drive train and TIRES get hit more than SC or 1/10 scale. That all depends on how often you drive, but you have to stay on it.
Batteries – 4 cell lipos are more than 2 cell. Cost is all up to you. $50 per back all the way up to $250 per pack.
Good steering servo - $80 is about what you would expect to spend. More if you want more.
Then comes the car kit.
That cost is pretty straight forward. I wanted to touch on more of the other costs that you might not haven seen once you grab the car kit.
I hope it helps and have fun at whatever you decide.
#27
I just got started in this myself. I got the rc8be, Tekin 1900kv combo, and 2 Turnigy 4s 35c 5000mah packs. Looking back the only thing I wish I had gotten different was to get hardcase battery packs but the ones I got havent given me any reason to complain.
I have a Hyperion ac/dc charger which is only 50w. It takes 90+ minutes to charge a pack that has been run to the voltage cutoff but only about 35 minutes after a qualifier. Im kinda on the fence about buying a new charger. I mean I didnt have any problems getting my packs charged in time for my races (even though I did forget to put the fresh pack in before my main duh) but it does get pretty hot working at its maximum wattage for long periods of time and 1.5 hours to charge a pack isnt exactly ideal.
As far as car kits go I did not want to buy a nitro car and conversion. It just seemed silly to buy a car then convert it. The rc8be was pretty cheap and it has all the stuff it needs right in the box. I also considered the mbx6 eco but the extra cost and fact I already have experience with the nitro rc8 tipped the scales in the rc8be's favor. I also considered the 8ight-E but it cost even more and most guys I know with Losis have a bunch of hopups on them. I knew I couldnt afford a MP9e and HPI and OFNA stuff doesnt appeal to me.
I have a Hyperion ac/dc charger which is only 50w. It takes 90+ minutes to charge a pack that has been run to the voltage cutoff but only about 35 minutes after a qualifier. Im kinda on the fence about buying a new charger. I mean I didnt have any problems getting my packs charged in time for my races (even though I did forget to put the fresh pack in before my main duh) but it does get pretty hot working at its maximum wattage for long periods of time and 1.5 hours to charge a pack isnt exactly ideal.
As far as car kits go I did not want to buy a nitro car and conversion. It just seemed silly to buy a car then convert it. The rc8be was pretty cheap and it has all the stuff it needs right in the box. I also considered the mbx6 eco but the extra cost and fact I already have experience with the nitro rc8 tipped the scales in the rc8be's favor. I also considered the 8ight-E but it cost even more and most guys I know with Losis have a bunch of hopups on them. I knew I couldnt afford a MP9e and HPI and OFNA stuff doesnt appeal to me.
#28
I have a Hyperion ac/dc charger which is only 50w. It takes 90+ minutes to charge a pack that has been run to the voltage cutoff but only about 35 minutes after a qualifier. Im kinda on the fence about buying a new charger. I mean I didnt have any problems getting my packs charged in time for my races (even though I did forget to put the fresh pack in before my main duh) but it does get pretty hot working at its maximum wattage for long periods of time and 1.5 hours to charge a pack isnt exactly ideal.
I had a 50w and I was beside myself how long it took to do a 4 cell pack. 2 cells were just fine @ 50 min etc.
I just went with the iCharger 106B+ and 250w power supply. ($170 ish) My 4 cell 5200 mah batts are done in 45'ish min.
For me it's more time driving and less time waiting, so it made sense.
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Can you set the icharger to charge at 2C? Ive been doing a lot of looking at chargers and its pretty confusing. I started a thread on here but it didnt get much interest and the posts it did get werent really the technical stuff I was hoping for. Then I saw 2 more threads for the same thing and mine was buried.
There are 3 setups Im considering. The icharger, Protek duo, or Protek 610. Then power supplies the Junsi 350w or the Protek 20amp for the single or 40 amp for the duo
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...S-10A-200W-x-2
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-138V-40A-520W
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...er-6S-10A-200W
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-138V-20A-260W
http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...&products_id=1
http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...products_id=13
http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...products_id=33
I really dont think I need a duo as I already own 2 chargers so I could sell one after getting the new setup and still have 2. I would use one mainly for my nitro stuff and the other for the e-buggy.
Both sites offer a one year warranty and Amain said he would work with me if I had a problem past the warranty period. I want something that the seller is willing to back up because I expect that means a low failure rate.
I was leaning toward the icharger setup because I think the 15v power supply would be better for charging my 4s packs but it only has one set of outputs so I wouldnt be able to power my other charger without rigging something up. So now I am considering the Protek single and 20 amp power supply as the front runner. I suppose the best setup might be the icharger and 20 amp Protek power supply though....yeah I have OCD
There are 3 setups Im considering. The icharger, Protek duo, or Protek 610. Then power supplies the Junsi 350w or the Protek 20amp for the single or 40 amp for the duo
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...S-10A-200W-x-2
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-138V-40A-520W
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...er-6S-10A-200W
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-138V-20A-260W
http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...&products_id=1
http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...products_id=13
http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...products_id=33
I really dont think I need a duo as I already own 2 chargers so I could sell one after getting the new setup and still have 2. I would use one mainly for my nitro stuff and the other for the e-buggy.
Both sites offer a one year warranty and Amain said he would work with me if I had a problem past the warranty period. I want something that the seller is willing to back up because I expect that means a low failure rate.
I was leaning toward the icharger setup because I think the 15v power supply would be better for charging my 4s packs but it only has one set of outputs so I wouldnt be able to power my other charger without rigging something up. So now I am considering the Protek single and 20 amp power supply as the front runner. I suppose the best setup might be the icharger and 20 amp Protek power supply though....yeah I have OCD
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Can you set the icharger to charge at 2C? Ive been doing a lot of looking at chargers and its pretty confusing. I started a thread on here but it didnt get much interest and the posts it did get werent really the technical stuff I was hoping for. Then I saw 2 more threads for the same thing and mine was buried.
There are 3 setups Im considering. The icharger, Protek duo, or Protek 610. Then power supplies the Junsi 350w or the Protek 20amp for the single or 40 amp for the duo
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...S-10A-200W-x-2
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-138V-40A-520W
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...er-6S-10A-200W
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-138V-20A-260W
http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...&products_id=1
http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...products_id=13
http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...products_id=33
I really dont think I need a duo as I already own 2 chargers so I could sell one after getting the new setup and still have 2. I would use one mainly for my nitro stuff and the other for the e-buggy.
Both sites offer a one year warranty and Amain said he would work with me if I had a problem past the warranty period. I want something that the seller is willing to back up because I expect that means a low failure rate.
I was leaning toward the icharger setup because I think the 15v power supply would be better for charging my 4s packs but it only has one set of outputs so I wouldnt be able to power my other charger without rigging something up. So now I am considering the Protek single and 20 amp power supply as the front runner. I suppose the best setup might be the icharger and 20 amp Protek power supply though....yeah I have OCD
There are 3 setups Im considering. The icharger, Protek duo, or Protek 610. Then power supplies the Junsi 350w or the Protek 20amp for the single or 40 amp for the duo
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...S-10A-200W-x-2
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-138V-40A-520W
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...er-6S-10A-200W
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-138V-20A-260W
http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...&products_id=1
http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...products_id=13
http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...products_id=33
I really dont think I need a duo as I already own 2 chargers so I could sell one after getting the new setup and still have 2. I would use one mainly for my nitro stuff and the other for the e-buggy.
Both sites offer a one year warranty and Amain said he would work with me if I had a problem past the warranty period. I want something that the seller is willing to back up because I expect that means a low failure rate.
I was leaning toward the icharger setup because I think the 15v power supply would be better for charging my 4s packs but it only has one set of outputs so I wouldnt be able to power my other charger without rigging something up. So now I am considering the Protek single and 20 amp power supply as the front runner. I suppose the best setup might be the icharger and 20 amp Protek power supply though....yeah I have OCD