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Old 03-22-2011, 01:44 PM
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hello.
i want to get a different motor for my stampede 4x4.
i want a 4 pole neu/castle 3800kv one but can the stock vxl work with 4 pole motors?
anybody have try this already with sucess?
is for 2s running and i do know that vxl already works great with 550 sensored motors like novak hv/ballistic and tekins 550 sc too.

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You should be fine, If the Sidewinder can handle the 1410 1y 4 pole motor. The VXL should be able to no problem

A lot of guys underestimate the VXL3s. Its a awesome ESC. Alot of guys here use it in there 4x4 SC with 4.5 550 motors also
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Yeah I think because the VXL3s is so easy to operate that it gets a bad rap. It also has alot less customization as other controllers do.
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Originally Posted by Manatarms25
You should be fine, If the Sidewinder can handle the 1410 1y 4 pole motor. The VXL should be able to no problem

A lot of guys underestimate the VXL3s. Its a awesome ESC. Alot of guys here use it in there 4x4 SC with 4.5 550 motors also
I agree w/ ya..... I have 3 trucks run VXL-3S esc & like them all.
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It will work just fine... That motor RIPS!! I run one in my 7lbs Losi SCTe and it never temps over 125.
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thankīs for all answers and opinions!
i owned many 1/10 escīs and always have keep my vxl and is incredible what that esc handles...
itīs simple, powerful and have run all the motors i have in stock from sensorless to sensored and from 540 to 550 can motors!
never heat even on dirt 1/8 tracks or 1/10 indoor carpet tracks.

i want to buy the 4 poles 3800kv castle motor because 4 poles extra torque and eficiency and less heat.
but itīs hard to find it without sidewinder esc for sell..

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Originally Posted by timaneli
thankīs for all answers and opinions!
i owned many 1/10 escīs and always have keep my vxl and is incredible what that esc handles...
itīs simple, powerful and have run all the motors i have in stock from sensorless to sensored and from 540 to 550 can motors!
never heat even on dirt 1/8 tracks or 1/10 indoor carpet tracks.

i want to buy the 4 poles 3800kv castle motor because 4 poles extra torque and eficiency and less heat.
but itīs hard to find it without sidewinder esc for sell..

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I paid 89 bucks for the combo, the ESC is a backup for 2wd. Now I hear Castle is selling just the motor for 90 bucks
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Originally Posted by SaladFork
I paid 89 bucks for the combo, the ESC is a backup for 2wd. Now I hear Castle is selling just the motor for 90 bucks
i have notice that too!!
maybe i will buy the combo and test the motor with the two escīs!
and one will stay as spare at the end of testing!!
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Can anyone really confirm the Velineon will work with a 4 pole motor? I tried my Velineon with a Neu 1506 4 pole motor tonight and it doesn't really work. The car goes but it hits a rev-limiter at full throttle. This is annoying because I feel it's not hitting max RPM.
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Originally Posted by koyota93
Can anyone really confirm the Velineon will work with a 4 pole motor? I tried my Velineon with a Neu 1506 4 pole motor tonight and it doesn't really work. The car goes but it hits a rev-limiter at full throttle. This is annoying because I feel it's not hitting max RPM.
and that's the issue you'll run in to with an ESC that is not meant for motors with more than 2 poles. If the ESC has a 60,000 RPM limit with a 2 pole motor it will be half that with a 4 pole.
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I paid 89 bucks for the combo, the ESC is a backup for 2wd. Now I hear Castle is selling just the motor for 90 bucks
Ah, I kinda like the feedback. Helps me on the next revision...

You do have to update the software in the field link for it to work with the Sidewinder SCT.

The ESC kinda feels cheap, cause it's kinda cheap. What do you want for $99 for a combo with a tremendous motor?

Really, the motor is about 70% of our cost. We were shooting for a ROAR legal (for SCT racing) motor and ESC. We know how much it cost to make the motor, so I designed an ESC that would give us the ability to hit a $99.00 street price, yet still perform well enough to handle the motor.

150F - 160F is nothing -- the ESC will handle about 300F without damage. It has a two level over-temp detection, which means it will punish you if you push it too hard (if it detects an extreme temperature ramp, it will shut down until temps settle down -- shows as a 30-40 second shutdown.) We use 200F as our heat sink maximum temperature for normal operation.

Just rambling...

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We do not offer the 1406 motors in a combo, they are only available by themselves; whenever we combine a motor and ESC, it is always cheaper than buying them individually. And keep in mind about 70% of our cost on the Sidewinder SCT is in the motor; so when we offer the 1410 3800kv by itself, it would be more than $50.00.

But yes, the only difference between the 1406 and 1410 motors is the kv and length. So if you don't need a higher kv motor and the 3800kv will get the job done...get the Sidewinder SCT combo and get a good ESC with a great motor at an amazing price.

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A little late on my response.lol Just googling something and came across this. The VXL will not support a 4 pole motor. Traxxas tech supports words...
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Can it do a 4pole 4800kv?
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Originally Posted by Brian C.
Can it do a 4pole 4800kv?
What part of "does not support a 4 pole motor" did you not understand?
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Originally Posted by RatsacK
What part of "does not support a 4 pole motor" did you not understand?
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Originally Posted by RCaddict0
A little late on my response.lol Just googling something and came across this. The VXL will not support a 4 pole motor. Traxxas tech supports words...
That is interesting since the controller can't tell the difference. A 4-pole running at 20,000 rpm looks exactly the same as a 2-pole running 40,000 rpm. I wonder why the VXL doesn't work?
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