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Associated B4.1 or Losi 22

Old 02-17-2011, 08:56 AM
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Check out your local race venue and parts/setup support. If available see if you can drive one first to assist in determining which platform to purchase. Both are very great racing chassis.
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Old 02-17-2011, 01:36 PM
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No doubt to say Losi 22.
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Old 02-17-2011, 02:13 PM
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id say it depends on what your skill level is too looks like 22 is going to be a lot more forgiving due to the aluminum chassis and stuff, but there is no doubt the b4's handle very well. Its really all about personal opinion in the end any way haha
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Old 02-17-2011, 02:36 PM
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all this talk about the 22 being optimized for lipos and brushless, and saying the b4 isnt.. but from everything I read about the B4.1 the 4.1 was created to optimize the b4 platform for lipos and brushless?
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Old 02-19-2011, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by glenthemann View Post
all this talk about the 22 being optimized for lipos and brushless, and saying the b4 isnt.. but from everything I read about the B4.1 the 4.1 was created to optimize the b4 platform for lipos and brushless?
What is the difference between b4 and b4.1 exactly? How much is interchangeble between the cars?
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I dont think they even sell strictly b4 parts any more do they? Meaning anything 4.1 should bolt right up to a b4?

Ill probly end up with a 22 at some point, but i think i am going to see how I hold up with my AE vs the 22 for a bit. If it is that drastic of a change ill probly switch sooner.

And all this talk about lipo and brushless compatible... tsk, tsk, a gold tub can be ran like this too.. Its just that new things come along with new geometry, adjustments and material. Thats where the tech is...
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Old 02-20-2011, 08:48 AM
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I like my 4.1, all those little things they did to the .1's must do something because it's night and day between my B4 and B4.1. Maybe it's the pixie dust they sprinkle in the box.

I'll run my 4.1 untill the B5 comes out, whenever that may be.
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Old 04-14-2011, 01:43 PM
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I just got a B4 used and love it.. what is the difference exactly to the .1.. Its the ft that I bought and I just raced it aginst my buddies 22 losi last night and I gotta say that Losi is sweet. They seem to handle better and carry more corner speed then mine.. i did beat the him but it was his first race with it and Im afraid once he figures it out he will be FLYING!! The mid motor mount was pretty trick.. I drove it for a few laps and loved it.. But Im AE all the way..
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Old 04-14-2011, 03:18 PM
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I heard one main issue with the 22 is the length of the car can lead to casing a lot of jumps for less than great drivers. It's as long as trucks with buggy tires. I'd still like to drive one though. I got a hands on look at one and it's a really nice looking car with some great engineering in it.
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I've driven 2, and they feel long. I'm sure you can adjust your chassis setup/driving accordingly, but I'll stick with my 4.1 for the time being.
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:39 PM
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Thats what the 22 felt like to me also...Real long....I prefer the B4 until its proven to not be competetive.....and I dont think thats gonna be the case!
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22 now gives the Losi guys a decent platform though
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Old 05-08-2011, 09:36 PM
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I race a b4.1 and it is a really good all round package, competitive right out of the box. Personally I've never needed to change too much from the stock setup for a variety of different tracks and conditions. I'll stick with it because I know AE and have all the spare parts, as does my local hobby shop.

That being said, there are a few 22's starting to appear at our local track and they look really, really nice. Without having driven one, they do look a generation further advanced than any other 2wd and they are certainly getting the results to back it up despite early days as far as tuning and setup goes.

I would suggest that the AE is a good starting point still, but if your local stocks all the parts and there is someone who can give you solid tips and some advice, the 22 could be the way to go for serious racing.

Any news on a B5 Associated???
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The last 2 races here have been dominated by a field of 22's yet won by a B4. The 22's here at the track haven't been all that impressive and the drivers have been complaining that when the rear end lets go, it goes all the way around. The couple of guys that are getting out of their comfort zone and are finally trying mid motor are liking that setup better and better. Too bad those guys are still tuning them like they would rear motor setups. They'll figure it out one day and when they do the reign of the rear motor car will be over. It's only a matter of time.
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:34 AM
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Default B4.1 for me...

I really like my B4.1 and have been racing against some 22s lately. They guys who can win with the 22 were the same guys who could win with the CR or the B4/B4.1... They look smooth but I am not sure if they are struggling with setup or they are to long as they are either very loose or very pushy at this point.

I don't feel I have lost a race yet due to the 22. I am sticking with the B4.1
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