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Old 04-09-2013, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by losi007 View Post
I am speaking of the gearbox outdrives not the driveshafts
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yes this is normal.. the out drives are as loose as a goose..lol dont worry if they were stiff you would burn up your motor. or something worse..
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:45 AM
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Had a great weekend of racing with this truck outdoors. Finished 3rd in the A after starting 6th. Last straight tangle with 2nd place was epic. I almost drove over the back of him 10ft from the line. I am getting the hang of all the power of the 4x4. Still working on jumping this thing though.
Is there any thing I can do to help with the learning curve coming from 17.5 SC, or is practice the only way to get this beast landing like it should? I can land it right most of the time, but still lawn darting on occasion. This is one TOUGH truck. Thanks for any help.
I had the same problem. things I did to help. I moved the body back just enough so the tires would clear. moved the battery as far back as I could . then I put a new body on it and didnt cut the holes so that it would kite a little in the front. MORE holes in the back to get it to drop the back on jumps. I also added a little push on the expo in radio so that when I fingered the throttle it wasn't breaking. WITH these pro 4 hd motors having so much power letting off the trigger and the motor slowing down is like putting on the breaks.. Try holding the trigger at a 1/16 of an inch under power so that its still under power .. and practice make perfect. go out on the track stand on the jump drive it tell you get it right walk the track with the car if it dives keep doing it tell you have it mastered. I like to go out three days of practice and run 6 batteries on my car making adjustments and changing tires to get it to work the best for track conditions. then go kick some butt and come in first place and TQ.. nothing better then a good running line and fast winning truck like the LOSI.. Thanks Horizon Casper and hacker for all the great products and hrs of having fun and set ups..
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by losi007 View Post
I am speaking of the gearbox outdrives not the driveshafts
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The outdrives with the kit diff cases will have a little wiggle to them. The HD diff cases fixed some of it. The wiggle not bad other the people complain about it. It has never created a performance or maintenance issue that I am aware of.
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Casper View Post
The outdrives with the kit diff cases will have a little wiggle to them. The HD diff cases fixed some of it. The wiggle not bad other the people complain about it. It has never created a performance or maintenance issue that I am aware of.
Ok thanks filor the reply just wanted to make sure im not the only one
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Casper View Post
The outdrives with the kit diff cases will have a little wiggle to them. The HD diff cases fixed some of it. The wiggle not bad other the people complain about it. It has never created a performance or maintenance issue that I am aware of.
Really ? Not bad you say ?

IMO Losi shouldn't even be using the old diff housings anymore , mine would get so loose after a while you could see the diff fluid seeping around the insert .

So the diffs emptying out over a few runs is not a maintenance/performance problem ?

How about the wear on the outdrives ? I bet a lot of that can be attributed to the loose/wiggly outdrives as well .
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BashemSmashem View Post
Really ? Not bad you say ?

IMO Losi shouldn't even be using the old diff housings anymore , mine would get so loose after a while you could see the diff fluid seeping around the insert .

So the diffs emptying out over a few runs is not a maintenance/performance problem ?

How about the wear on the outdrives ? I bet a lot of that can be attributed to the loose/wiggly outdrives as well .
I agree the inserts will leak. If you use the stock grease the wiggle will not be an issue. If you need to seal the stock diff cases for silicone you can RTV the inserts in place. I have never heard of anyone granading gears because of outdrive wiggle. Only the loss of some oil.

The wear is due to the angle of the front shaft and I don't think the outdrive wiggle significantly effects outdrive wear.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Casper View Post
I agree the inserts will leak. If you use the stock grease the wiggle will not be an issue. If you need to seal the stock diff cases for silicone you can RTV the inserts in place. I have never heard of anyone granading gears because of outdrive wiggle. Only the loss of some oil.

The wear is due to the angle of the front shaft and I don't think the outdrive wiggle significantly effects outdrive wear.
I used to kill a set of spider/sun gears every 5-6 races , you would start to hear them skipping under braking and then they would eventually strip out . Lots of others experienced this as well so it was no fluke .

Should you have to resort to gluing in the inserts yourself ? And even if you did they would eventually loosen up and start leaking again .

On the new diffs the wiggle is minimal and I agree it wouldn't add to the speed of the part wearing . But on the old diffs I disagree .
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Ive got 2 season's on my Old 1.0 Stock diffs w/Chris pins, No gear issues what so ever.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BashemSmashem View Post
I used to kill a set of spider/sun gears every 5-6 races , you would start to hear them skipping under braking and then they would eventually strip out . Lots of others experienced this as well so it was no fluke . .
I ran the stock diff gears from July 2011 until I got the new 2.0. Twice a week, 6-8 runs per week. Never had an issue with the gears. Only ever saw one person blow a diff.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:23 PM
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I left out my diff shim while rebuilding my diff when i noticed a sound when i throttle up i checked it again. Now when i brake i hear like a skipping sound although it works fine. Should i worry about this?
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Originally Posted by BashemSmashem View Post
I used to kill a set of spider/sun gears every 5-6 races , you would start to hear them skipping under braking and then they would eventually strip out . Lots of others experienced this as well so it was no fluke .

Should you have to resort to gluing in the inserts yourself ? And even if you did they would eventually loosen up and start leaking again .

On the new diffs the wiggle is minimal and I agree it wouldn't add to the speed of the part wearing . But on the old diffs I disagree .



I cant say i ever saw anybody or myself blow the a diff on this truck even with almost empty on oil ones. Now if that ran a 3s or 4s than it could happen more likely.

I do remmend everybody to get the HD diff cups of course !
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by losi007 View Post
I left out my diff shim while rebuilding my diff when i noticed a sound when i throttle up i checked it again. Now when i brake i hear like a skipping sound although it works fine. Should i worry about this?

Yea i would rake it apart and put the shim on.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rawwolf View Post
Had a great weekend of racing with this truck outdoors. Finished 3rd in the A after starting 6th. Last straight tangle with 2nd place was epic. I almost drove over the back of him 10ft from the line. I am getting the hang of all the power of the 4x4. Still working on jumping this thing though.
Is there any thing I can do to help with the learning curve coming from 17.5 SC, or is practice the only way to get this beast landing like it should? I can land it right most of the time, but still lawn darting on occasion. This is one TOUGH truck. Thanks for any help.
Stay off the brakes as much as possible while in the air. I moved the battery back to balance it out. Sounds like you are doing great!!! Got your tires figured out yet.
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Old 04-09-2013, 05:18 PM
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With the TLR chassis i heard you dont need the big spacer on the chassis ? I tried it without the big spacer and i had to use shorter screws. Like the one that goes into the battery tray because the ones that go into the center diff mounts were to long.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by platgof View Post
Stay off the brakes as much as possible while in the air. I moved the battery back to balance it out. Sounds like you are doing great!!! Got your tires figured out yet.
The truck came with city blocks and the stock tires. Ran the city blocks all day. I didnt have the 100% correct outdoor setup. I am caught between end of indoor season and the start of outdoor. Smooth Indoor HI traction clay/bumpy outdoor med to low traction black dirt. looking forward to running again this weekend. Thanks platgof and chucko for the tips.
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