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Old 08-03-2012, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by USMC STONE
Of course the Losi sponsored will say its race able box stock, and it is. BUT:

1-I use Hudy tools with new tips or ground down to unused section of tips. The stock screws are very soft compared to let's say X-RAY.
2-The stock chassis and shock towers must be made of "limpanium" I can bend by hand. How many people have bent the front kick up section of chassis or rear shock tower? A whole lot.
3- I purchased 3 of first batch so I went thru the whole diff pin issue but the diff plastics were stripped and leaked grease from factory. They may be solved now like the diff pins.

If you really want the best version of this truck do not buy it from Losi.
1. Buy aftermarket chassis of your choice
2. Get carbon towers from Losi, SNR or other well know maker. The aftermarket Losi aluminum towers are just as week as stock.
3. Get the entire Tekno drivetrain and don't worry about anything.
4. Get most of the rest for cheap on eBay like arms (although RPM makes some now), steering and camber links, aftermarket body.
You can build a race version like this for hardly any more than a stock Losi and not have to worry about the issues that have plagued the original.

CHECK THIS GUY OUT..........TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL....!!!!!
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:47 PM
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Chucko, thanks for the help...
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 8ight-e
A few must haves for any losi scte, new in box losi lightened flex chassis, and a new in box hobbywing sct pro w/ 4000kv 4-pole. Take a peek.. here in the sale area.
Good deal on both . I run that chassis and love it . I have already decided if anything goes wrong with my current set up I am going to try the Xerun . I bumped it for you .
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Fella's give my man a break, he is a service man. I will listen to what he says even if he is wrong or right. It's a public forum remember.
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OKAY, I HATE SCTE DIFFS. every time i rebuild a diff sometimes they work, sometimes they lock up. LOSI please come out with a new design where us as your customers dont have to spend time make shifting them to work with fluid. I rebuild my diffs in a brand new truck, some when smooth, but the front was locking up, today i went out and bought a new housing thinking it might have been the way i glued the inserts. So i rebuilt is again, today, when the diff is tightened down it still locks up. The diffs are brand new. I backed off the screws a little and it seems OK. Is it normal for a new diff to be a little stiffer and not as smooth as one that is a little older?
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Originally Posted by myl3s91
OKAY, I HATE SCTE DIFFS. every time i rebuild a diff sometimes they work, sometimes they lock up. LOSI please come out with a new design where us as your customers dont have to spend time make shifting them to work with fluid. I rebuild my diffs in a brand new truck, some when smooth, but the front was locking up, today i went out and bought a new housing thinking it might have been the way i glued the inserts. So i rebuilt is again, today, when the diff is tightened down it still locks up. The diffs are brand new. I backed off the screws a little and it seems OK. Is it normal for a new diff to be a little stiffer and not as smooth as one that is a little older?

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Originally Posted by myl3s91
OKAY, I HATE SCTE DIFFS. every time i rebuild a diff sometimes they work, sometimes they lock up. LOSI please come out with a new design where us as your customers dont have to spend time make shifting them to work with fluid. I rebuild my diffs in a brand new truck, some when smooth, but the front was locking up, today i went out and bought a new housing thinking it might have been the way i glued the inserts. So i rebuilt is again, today, when the diff is tightened down it still locks up. The diffs are brand new. I backed off the screws a little and it seems OK. Is it normal for a new diff to be a little stiffer and not as smooth as one that is a little older?
I have had one that I needed to double up on diff gaskets so the gears don`t get to tight .
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Yea I wish the gear boxes were a little less traxxasish lol would be great to be able to access the diffs without pulling 20% of the truck apart....... come on X ray build us a professional grade SC truck but with losi prices! Lol
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Originally Posted by Khwilliams
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I have had one that I needed to double up on diff gaskets so the gears don`t get to tight .
Okay, so it is normal for a brand new diff to be a little tighter then a diff that has been broken obviously right? lol
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Originally Posted by myl3s91
OKAY, I HATE SCTE DIFFS. every time i rebuild a diff sometimes they work, sometimes they lock up. LOSI please come out with a new design where us as your customers dont have to spend time make shifting them to work with fluid. I rebuild my diffs in a brand new truck, some when smooth, but the front was locking up, today i went out and bought a new housing thinking it might have been the way i glued the inserts. So i rebuilt is again, today, when the diff is tightened down it still locks up. The diffs are brand new. I backed off the screws a little and it seems OK. Is it normal for a new diff to be a little stiffer and not as smooth as one that is a little older?
With the new gears it is critical you get the "squares" set down in the diffs. I use a allen wrench to push down to make sure the blocks are fully seated into the housing. If you do that the diffs should always come out smooth. I found this out when I built all new diffs with the new gears. One was smooth as could be the other two locked up until I realized the square blocks were not fully seated.
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Originally Posted by Casper
With the new gears it is critical you get the "squares" set down in the diffs. I use a allen wrench to push down to make sure the blocks are fully seated into the housing. If you do that the diffs should always come out smooth. I found this out when I built all new diffs with the new gears. One was smooth as could be the other two locked up until I realized the square blocks were not fully seated.
Thats how I built the diffs, and I did it more then once, i used an allen wrench to push the square blocks, so they fully seat. But they still seemed rather tight, and if I fully snugged up the screw they'd be at the locking point.. I have rebuilt the diffs in my other scte over a dozen times with no issues. But these are brand new diffs, I doubled up the gasget on the front and rear and they are as smooth as butter now. The center was fine, can doubling up the gasget cause any issues? Im thinking ill run them with the doubled up gasgets for a while then rebuild and hope that they will break in and be smoother with 1 gasget.. Thanks for the feed back any info helps!!!
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Originally Posted by Casper
With the new gears it is critical you get the "squares" set down in the diffs. I use a allen wrench to push down to make sure the blocks are fully seated into the housing. If you do that the diffs should always come out smooth. I found this out when I built all new diffs with the new gears. One was smooth as could be the other two locked up until I realized the square blocks were not fully seated.
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Thats how I built the diffs, and I did it more then once, i used an allen wrench to push the square blocks, so they fully seat. But they still seemed rather tight, and if I fully snugged up the screw they'd be at the locking point.. I have rebuilt the diffs in my other scte over a dozen times with no issues. But these are brand new diffs, I doubled up the gasget on the front and rear and they are as smooth as butter now. The center was fine, can doubling up the gasget cause any issues? Im thinking ill run them with the doubled up gasgets for a while then rebuild and hope that they will break in and be smoother with 1 gasget.. Thanks for the feed back any info helps!!!
You have to double check everything if it is too tight. Maybe the inserts in the diff case aren't seated all the way? That might make it tight too. The stock diffs in my truck are over a year old since the last maintenence and are still smoothe. The inserts are a bit prblematic with the stock diffs but overall I won't be complaining anytime soon. They can leak but a TINY bit of rtv on the gasket and problem is fixed. I personally Ca'd my inserts into the case, you have to press them in pretty hard till they kinda pop in place. That is easier said than done though... Good luck you will get it.

Also break the diffs in with a cordless drill and half an old dog bone ya got layin around afer you get them together, helps seat everything properly.
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You have to double check everything if it is too tight. Maybe the inserts in the diff case aren't seated all the way? That might make it tight too. The stock diffs in my truck are over a year old since the last maintenence and are still smoothe. The inserts are a bit prblematic with the stock diffs but overall I won't be complaining anytime soon. They can leak but a TINY bit of rtv on the gasket and problem is fixed. I personally Ca'd my inserts into the case, you have to press them in pretty hard till they kinda pop in place. That is easier said than done though... Good luck you will get it.

Also break the diffs in with a cordless drill and half an old dog bone ya got layin around afer you get them together, helps seat everything properly.
I have done all of the above except break them in with a drill. Does it hurt to have 2 seals on there?
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Put them in the truck and go run a battery pack. Tight diffs will be fine after that.
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I just a Trackstar 2650kv 6 pole motor. And am completely new to motors of this size, (specifically very high torque & low RPM).

I have it geared 13t with the stock spur (40t?). It got to 140f which I understand is quite low, but that was just after 5 minutes of light running.

One thing I noticed with this motor is it would warm up really easily just spinning "freely" (not in the truck). So is it normal for motors of this size to warm up easily? and get to 140f even though the motor isn't pulling allot of watts?

And really strange is with the motor out of the truck it would cog when I applied full "throttle". Is that because it's a 6 pole? I think I heard that higher pole motors don't 'like" high RPM. So is that why it cogs at higher RPM?

I tried changing the ESC timing from low all the way to very high. Normal timing seemed to cause the least amount of cogging.

Thanks for any advice.
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