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Old 04-16-2012, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin_M
Ok I need help. I had my first race with my scte yesterday with new BCE chassis and motor and esc and new springs.

I did notice my shocks were stiff i found my shock ends were not free moving and loose.

When I would go over jumps the truck was dropping its nose all the time. I have minimal drag brake.

This is still new racing elect racing to me.
Was just the shock ball ends stiff or the whole arm assembly with the shocks attached? If your arms are not free then that will mess up not only your jumps but your handling too.

First thing first make sure your springs and arms are working properly. Take them off and make sure everything works freely independently. Arms, springs, hub carriers, etc. Doing any fine tuning on a car that is not working as it should is only gone to make things worse.

Nose diving is pretty typically for someone who is new to 4wd...

4wd is different that running 2wd. Every jump is different of course but it general - 2wd you tend to let off at the peak to keep the nose down. 4wd you have to stay on the throttle a little more to keep the nose up.

There are little things to help but effect other tuning options if you change.
You can try to move the battery back or adjust your preload of your shock collars(more preload up front or less in the rear) This will effect your ride height though thus your handling. Different springs might help too. Most a Typical is to have have stiffer springs in the front.

What I would do is do a test... take your most typical medium sized jump on your track and do a wide open throttle test on it, don't let off until you land. What did it do?

Did you still nose dive? If so you probably need to adjust something. If not then landing most likely can be handled with throttle control.

I'm no pro obviously, just trying to help. So maybe some of the more experience drivers can give you better tips.

I would pick a Team driver setup and set up your car EXACTLY like they have it and go from there. My suggestion would be Ryan Dunford's setup - http://losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/LOSB0...ford-02_12.pdf

That way you can be certain its not a setup issue, and more likely just a learning the car issue.

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Old 04-16-2012, 07:22 AM
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Anyone know the Spektrum servo horn size? Thanks.
Not sure if this helps but I believe they are the same size as the JR.

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Old 04-16-2012, 07:24 AM
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Hey guys what a good run of gears to have for this truck? Im running the tenshock 5200kv...

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Old 04-16-2012, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackStarRacing
Hey guys what a good run of gears to have for this truck? Im running the tenshock 5200kv...

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if you have a 12 13 14 15 your good to go !! 12 on small indoor 14 15 on large outdoor..
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Originally Posted by chucko
if you have a 12 13 14 15 your good to go !! 12 on small indoor 14 15 on large outdoor..
perfect, thanks.....
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by chucko
if you have a 12 13 14 15 your good to go !! 12 on small indoor 14 15 on large outdoor..
48p?
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Originally Posted by BlackStarRacing
48p?
Mod 1.0
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Originally Posted by BlackStarRacing
48p?
NO ! Mod 1 is what you need .....
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Originally Posted by RC*PHREAK
Mod 1.0
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NO ! Mod 1 is what you need .....
ok so what i run for my losi 8e will work on here....can you say sweet! lol
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Yes mod1, but that gearing seems a bit high. With a 5200 I'd say you can't gear low enough.. typical gearing on the 4600 is 13/14t for large tracks not sure why a 5200 could possible need or handle more. I'd guess a starting point of 11t for smaller tracks and up to a 13t for large tracks but I've never run this motor so who knows maybe I'm off.
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So if i use a 12t i will get the most torque:good for technical indoor type tracks

13-14t will increase top end but still maintain a level of torque:small to medium
outdoor tracks

15t for maximum top end: large outdoor tracks

would you say this is fair?
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Nah, I ran the 5200 sc401 (unsensored) for the last couple weeks on our small, tight indoor track with a 12T. Never got over 120.

With brushless motors, you get faster, more power, more torque everywhere when you gear up (not taking into account traction, esc, and battery limitations). The higher the load, the more amps they will draw (when you gear up, you are increasing the load). With that, you gear for the speed/power you want while making sure your temps are in check. 14T on a large track should be plenty.
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Are the stock Losi bodies pretty good on these trucks? Don't want to waste time painting it if it is going to fall apart. Thanks
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Originally Posted by BlackStarRacing
ok so what i run for my losi 8e will work on here....can you say sweet! lol
That was done on purpose!

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Are the stock Losi bodies pretty good on these trucks? Don't want to waste time painting it if it is going to fall apart. Thanks
The bodies will crack first just in front of the windshield most likely but they do hold up pretty well. Not really any worse then anything else I see out there.
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Originally Posted by RC*PHREAK
Nah, I ran the 5200 sc401 (unsensored) for the last couple weeks on our small, tight indoor track with a 12T. Never got over 120.

With brushless motors, you get faster, more power, more torque everywhere when you gear up (not taking into account traction, esc, and battery limitations). The higher the load, the more amps they will draw (when you gear up, you are increasing the load). With that, you gear for the speed/power you want while making sure your temps are in check. 14T on a large track should be plenty.
ok cool....

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