Losi 1/10 TEN-SCTE ARR 4x4 Short Course Truck Thread
Tech Regular
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I am kind of torn right now about what route to go. The most cost effective way to get one of these trucks with a good upgraded chassis is to buy the Tim Bump edition that comes with a great aluminum chassis for 350 bucks.
However, I want the truck to be as light as possible and I know that the SNR chassis is 38 grams lighter than the bump chassis. It has been a long time since I was in this hobby and last time I was in it, I was not counting grams like this. I just raced.
I guess the question is, will that extra 40 grams saved with the use of the SNR chassis actually be worth the extra 80 bucks it will cost me to complete my roller the way I want it? Will I notice any handling and jumping performance advantages with that extra 38 gram weight loss?
I am planning on maxing out my weight loss mods on top of what ever chassis I go with. So making up the difference somewhere else is not what I am after. Please to not start up another chassis quality control debate over this question. This is a performance based question only.
However, I want the truck to be as light as possible and I know that the SNR chassis is 38 grams lighter than the bump chassis. It has been a long time since I was in this hobby and last time I was in it, I was not counting grams like this. I just raced.
I guess the question is, will that extra 40 grams saved with the use of the SNR chassis actually be worth the extra 80 bucks it will cost me to complete my roller the way I want it? Will I notice any handling and jumping performance advantages with that extra 38 gram weight loss?
I am planning on maxing out my weight loss mods on top of what ever chassis I go with. So making up the difference somewhere else is not what I am after. Please to not start up another chassis quality control debate over this question. This is a performance based question only.
Tech Elite
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Making the truck lighter has been an advantage for me. Some may not like it but IMO there are more advantages than disadvantages. It's not as easy to drive as stock but motor temps and battery life are better. Stock weight with a 550 motor was 6.8#, mine is currently at 6.0
That's rtr with stock chassis. I have a bce on order and titanium turnbuckles which should shave a couple more ounces.
Every time I make it lighter it gets better and better. I usually run on a tight high bite 1/10 track, but we are racing on the 1/8 track this weekend and it's still dialed. I'm not saying lighter is better for everyone, but for me it is.
That's rtr with stock chassis. I have a bce on order and titanium turnbuckles which should shave a couple more ounces.
Every time I make it lighter it gets better and better. I usually run on a tight high bite 1/10 track, but we are racing on the 1/8 track this weekend and it's still dialed. I'm not saying lighter is better for everyone, but for me it is.
Just out of curiosity has anyone tried mixing Super Soft fronts with Soft rears. I am trying to get a little more rotation on a tight track.
Tech Master
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I am kind of torn right now about what route to go. The most cost effective way to get one of these trucks with a good upgraded chassis is to buy the Tim Bump edition that comes with a great aluminum chassis for 350 bucks.
However, I want the truck to be as light as possible and I know that the SNR chassis is 38 grams lighter than the bump chassis. It has been a long time since I was in this hobby and last time I was in it, I was not counting grams like this. I just raced.
I guess the question is, will that extra 40 grams saved with the use of the SNR chassis actually be worth the extra 80 bucks it will cost me to complete my roller the way I want it? Will I notice any handling and jumping performance advantages with that extra 38 gram weight loss?
I am planning on maxing out my weight loss mods on top of what ever chassis I go with. So making up the difference somewhere else is not what I am after. Please to not start up another chassis quality control debate over this question. This is a performance based question only.
However, I want the truck to be as light as possible and I know that the SNR chassis is 38 grams lighter than the bump chassis. It has been a long time since I was in this hobby and last time I was in it, I was not counting grams like this. I just raced.
I guess the question is, will that extra 40 grams saved with the use of the SNR chassis actually be worth the extra 80 bucks it will cost me to complete my roller the way I want it? Will I notice any handling and jumping performance advantages with that extra 38 gram weight loss?
I am planning on maxing out my weight loss mods on top of what ever chassis I go with. So making up the difference somewhere else is not what I am after. Please to not start up another chassis quality control debate over this question. This is a performance based question only.
Tech Adept
I suppose if I did not like the performance characteristics of the 200 gram graphite chassis that I could always put a little more weight in with the help of a couple of strips of lead tape.
Humm, there is a good question. Would there be any advantage of pulling weight out of the center of the vehicle (chassis) and redistributing it towards the axles? Perhaps that is why it is easier to pull the nose of the truck up on jumps now? Not so much because it is lighter, but because the more of the over all weight is towards the ends of the chassis instead of the middle of it?
For those suspension geeks out there, what does moving the weight over the axles do to the dynamics of a vehicle. What does it do to the turning and jumping characteristics?
Tech Elite
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Not as easy to drive how? I use to be a pretty skilled rc driver and will more than likely pick it back up pretty fast. Is it not as easy to drive because removing weight from the chassis essentially raises the CG? You mean it does not stay as planted at is did?
I suppose if I did not like the performance characteristics of the 200 gram graphite chassis that I could always put a little more weight in with the help of a couple of strips of lead tape.
Humm, there is a good question. Would there be any advantage of pulling weight out of the center of the vehicle (chassis) and redistributing it towards the axles? Perhaps that is why it is easier to pull the nose of the truck up on jumps now? Not so much because it is lighter, but because the more of the over all weight is towards the ends of the chassis instead of the middle of it?
For those suspension geeks out there, what does moving the weight over the axles do to the dynamics of a vehicle. What does it do to the turning and jumping characteristics?
I suppose if I did not like the performance characteristics of the 200 gram graphite chassis that I could always put a little more weight in with the help of a couple of strips of lead tape.
Humm, there is a good question. Would there be any advantage of pulling weight out of the center of the vehicle (chassis) and redistributing it towards the axles? Perhaps that is why it is easier to pull the nose of the truck up on jumps now? Not so much because it is lighter, but because the more of the over all weight is towards the ends of the chassis instead of the middle of it?
For those suspension geeks out there, what does moving the weight over the axles do to the dynamics of a vehicle. What does it do to the turning and jumping characteristics?
Tech Adept
The SCTE is a heavy truck but as has been discussed a lot on here the weight is not really a bad thing and helps the truck race in many ways. My point is don't be obsessed with saving weight. Make your hop up decisions based on performance or tuning additions and don't worry too much about the weight.
Tech Master
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I am hoping the diffs hold up. I'm not sure what I think of them. I just purchased the truck and went through it. Those little alloy inserts look like trouble. Especially after my buddy had his oval out on him.
Tech Prophet
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The TLR tuned kit is a great value for hopups you can use. The truck out of the box is solid. Probably the biggest compaint about the kit truck is the stock shock towers as most go carbon fiber for weight and strength. Those come with the TLR tuned kit as well though. If you are racing you will most likely get most of all of the TLR tuned kit parts over time so might as well save some money and get it all in a box.
Tech Champion
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When you say outside- outside do you mean hole #1 on the front tower?
When we mention black springs, it is the new black spring.
On the part where we fill it in, I tried to make sure we used the actual location such as outside instead of the number. At losi 1 is always inside and goes out.
It should be shipping shortly.
Use outside - outside for the front shocks. The Lane setup is the most up to date version we have been using. But use the middle hole on the bottom shock location.
On the part where we fill it in, I tried to make sure we used the actual location such as outside instead of the number. At losi 1 is always inside and goes out.
It should be shipping shortly.
Use outside - outside for the front shocks. The Lane setup is the most up to date version we have been using. But use the middle hole on the bottom shock location.
Good race last Thursday with a couple losi's battling for the lead. The kid in the white and black truck has only been racing for 9 months.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X26FbgtQBgA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X26FbgtQBgA
Tech Prophet
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does anybody know what are the spring rates of the older silver/black/gold springs and if there is a comparable rate to the newer racing spring rates. I see on the site the newer racing springs has the rates but older type do not. please advise thx
had a pretty good weekend of racing, I qualified 2nd and ended up taking 3rd in the main because my battery hit cut off 30 feet before the lap counter
oh well, at least I knew I was there.
Also I knew these trucks were heavy, but I puffed my protek 65c battery in that same main???
maybe the protek's are a little weak or something.
has anyone else puffed a 60-65c pack?
oh well, at least I knew I was there.
Also I knew these trucks were heavy, but I puffed my protek 65c battery in that same main???
maybe the protek's are a little weak or something.
has anyone else puffed a 60-65c pack?
had a pretty good weekend of racing, I qualified 2nd and ended up taking 3rd in the main because my battery hit cut off 30 feet before the lap counter
oh well, at least I knew I was there.
Also I knew these trucks were heavy, but I puffed my protek 65c battery in that same main???
maybe the protek's are a little weak or something.
has anyone else puffed a 60-65c pack?
oh well, at least I knew I was there.
Also I knew these trucks were heavy, but I puffed my protek 65c battery in that same main???
maybe the protek's are a little weak or something.
has anyone else puffed a 60-65c pack?