Associated quality?
01-17-2011, 03:36 PM
#16
01-17-2011, 03:38 PM
#17
I think the quality of the plastic is down slightly but having shocks that are not prone to leaks and aluminum rear hubs more than offset any issues with slop.
I'm not sure if its related or not, but, the lightweight set up works much better on a B4.1 vs the old B4. Which makes me wonder if the re-forumated plastic that seams to wear out quicker helps generate more grip.
If it does, I would gladly buy a set of arms every 6-8 race weekends than every 6-8 months.
I'm not sure if its related or not, but, the lightweight set up works much better on a B4.1 vs the old B4. Which makes me wonder if the re-forumated plastic that seams to wear out quicker helps generate more grip.
If it does, I would gladly buy a set of arms every 6-8 race weekends than every 6-8 months.
01-17-2011, 03:39 PM
#18
Tech Apprentice
01-17-2011, 03:41 PM
#19
01-17-2011, 03:52 PM
#20
The only thing I've heard why the slop is there, is to eliminate suspension binding when things get dirty. If clearances are too tight, a bit of dirt can supposedly cause binding. My SC10 has had MAJOR steering slop from day 1 and I am less than thrilled to hear that they outsource their injection molding overseas. A good friend of mine is in that business, and I know most US companies would bend over to get that contract.
01-17-2011, 04:04 PM
#21
The only thing I've heard why the slop is there, is to eliminate suspension binding when things get dirty. If clearances are too tight, a bit of dirt can supposedly cause binding
01-17-2011, 04:22 PM
#22
My SC10 front end has more slop than a two dollar hooker, rides nice though! 
01-17-2011, 04:34 PM
#23
Of course I know, I own one. No slop in the rear, carbon rear tower, Al height shims...... then there's the floppy AE front end I had to bolt on. LOL.
X-F is more of an example of putting forth the effort to get it right. Something I think AE lacks. I'm really miffed about my V2 shock quality and how easy it is to strip thier plastic.
X-F is more of an example of putting forth the effort to get it right. Something I think AE lacks. I'm really miffed about my V2 shock quality and how easy it is to strip thier plastic.
01-17-2011, 04:38 PM
#24
01-17-2011, 04:40 PM
#25
Of course I know, I own one. No slop in the rear, carbon rear tower, Al height shims...... then there's the floppy AE front end I had to bolt on. LOL.
X-F is more of an example of putting forth the effort to get it right. Something I think AE lacks. I'm really miffed about my V2 shock quality and how easy it is to strip thier plastic.
X-F is more of an example of putting forth the effort to get it right. Something I think AE lacks. I'm really miffed about my V2 shock quality and how easy it is to strip thier plastic.
01-17-2011, 04:59 PM
#26
There are definately higher quality better performing kits on the market. Feel free to vote with your wallets. But beware.
The kind of 'quality' you guys are describing will increase costs considerably and could transform 1/10 off road into something more like touring cars where companies like XRay dominate the market and make their money not in spare parts, but, releasing a new improved kit every 12 months.
Been there, done, that, no thanks.
The kind of 'quality' you guys are describing will increase costs considerably and could transform 1/10 off road into something more like touring cars where companies like XRay dominate the market and make their money not in spare parts, but, releasing a new improved kit every 12 months.
Been there, done, that, no thanks.
01-17-2011, 05:06 PM
#27
There are definately higher quality better performing kits on the market. Feel free to vote with your wallets. But beware.
The kind of 'quality' you guys are describing will increase costs considerably and could transform 1/10 off road into something more like touring cars where companies like XRay dominate the market and make their money not in spare parts, but, releasing a new improved kit every 12 months.
Been there, done, that, no thanks.
The kind of 'quality' you guys are describing will increase costs considerably and could transform 1/10 off road into something more like touring cars where companies like XRay dominate the market and make their money not in spare parts, but, releasing a new improved kit every 12 months.
Been there, done, that, no thanks.
+1 i agree and there parts arent very cheap at all .
i think that would hurt the r/c racing community if people decided to do that.
01-17-2011, 05:10 PM
#28
Of course I know, I own one. No slop in the rear, carbon rear tower, Al height shims...... then there's the floppy AE front end I had to bolt on. LOL.
X-F is more of an example of putting forth the effort to get it right. Something I think AE lacks. I'm really miffed about my V2 shock quality and how easy it is to strip thier plastic.
X-F is more of an example of putting forth the effort to get it right. Something I think AE lacks. I'm really miffed about my V2 shock quality and how easy it is to strip thier plastic.
01-17-2011, 05:16 PM
#29
There are definately higher quality better performing kits on the market. Feel free to vote with your wallets. But beware.
The kind of 'quality' you guys are describing will increase costs considerably and could transform 1/10 off road into something more like touring cars where companies like XRay dominate the market and make their money not in spare parts, but, releasing a new improved kit every 12 months.
Been there, done, that, no thanks.
The kind of 'quality' you guys are describing will increase costs considerably and could transform 1/10 off road into something more like touring cars where companies like XRay dominate the market and make their money not in spare parts, but, releasing a new improved kit every 12 months.
Been there, done, that, no thanks.
01-17-2011, 05:50 PM
#30
I'm just using your post as an example, there are a couple more like this, so this isn't to point you out.
Which is precisely why we have Schumacher, Associated, Losi, X-Ray, and God forbid I say it in the same sentence, Traxxas.
If we all preferred the same thing, only one of these companies would exist. That would be dependent on what we all liked.
Preference, folks. In the above type of situation.
As for the current quality, I don't own a recently released model, I can't speak to that.
I race for schumacher and i am completely aware of what these kits cost,, but on the other hand,, after 6 months of racing twice a week,, no parts wear to speak of,, parts breakage due to my own cause!! and still has a buttery smooth diff that i have not touched,, so in the long run i would rather pay a bit more upfront for the quality, than to spend the money later on parts and bench time.
If we all preferred the same thing, only one of these companies would exist. That would be dependent on what we all liked.
Preference, folks. In the above type of situation.
As for the current quality, I don't own a recently released model, I can't speak to that.