ROAR has banned a sct tire that's barely released
12-29-2010, 11:30 PM
#76
I was recently escorted out of a ROAR event for having a metallic blue body on my SC10. Two guys in black suits with orange safety vest, was pretty sketchy, ROAR does not mess around. 
12-29-2010, 11:31 PM
#77
haha dont worry i agree with ya lol. Some of these rules have gone too too far. Especially the blue on the body. Maybe i missed it but what's the reason for that? Out of all of the trophy races etc that i go in a year the only roar race i would attend is the nats so i dont've to worry too much about roar rules
12-29-2010, 11:37 PM
#78
I'm a ROAR member & I think it's great that they made a decision...
That being said, this decision means little... It only means that they are regulating the type of tires that can be used at 'their' events... There are so few of them.
Both JConcepts & Pro-Line have made the decision to manufacture a ribbed tire that has an application & a demand. Both companies sponsor & support severval regional events every year & generally only loosely following the ROAR rule sets, ROAR's decision will in no way effect the sells, if anything it will help both manufacturers sell more units.
This is just going to be one of often overlooked rules like that 540 can rule for the 4wd SCT class.
That being said, this decision means little... It only means that they are regulating the type of tires that can be used at 'their' events... There are so few of them.
Both JConcepts & Pro-Line have made the decision to manufacture a ribbed tire that has an application & a demand. Both companies sponsor & support severval regional events every year & generally only loosely following the ROAR rule sets, ROAR's decision will in no way effect the sells, if anything it will help both manufacturers sell more units.
This is just going to be one of often overlooked rules like that 540 can rule for the 4wd SCT class.
12-30-2010, 12:16 AM
#79
Tech Regular
What a crock.
Are the tyres black and round? - Thats close enough to scale for me.
Next they'll ban certain compounds and we'll all have to buy durometers to ensure we're legal.
Are the tyres black and round? - Thats close enough to scale for me.
Next they'll ban certain compounds and we'll all have to buy durometers to ensure we're legal.
12-30-2010, 12:59 AM
#80
Tech Regular
I don't see how a tire with a standard SC spec size is going to kill a class. The clay specific tires certainly don't look proper scale. Why allow those and not the ribbed front tires?
You want affordable SC racing, race stock rules with stock tires. For SC classes that allow racing tires, I see no reason why we shouldn't be able to run the ribbed front tires.
You want affordable SC racing, race stock rules with stock tires. For SC classes that allow racing tires, I see no reason why we shouldn't be able to run the ribbed front tires.
LOL LOL
12-30-2010, 04:55 AM
#82
I'm not a ROAR fan, but I think trying to get SCT's to run the same lap times as Stadium Trucks shouldn't be the goal. Not every class has to be Formula 1 and taken to the extreme.
12-30-2010, 06:21 AM
#85
I have not always been a fan of some of the ROAR decisions but in a couple decades of doing this I have found that tracks with more rules stay in operation longer than tracks with less rules 100% of the time. Individually some rules can seem insignificant but imagine what SCT would be like if they had never outlawed 1/8 size wheels/tires (actually, it might be cheaper than it is now 
)? One new thing here, one new thing there and before you know it, you're racing electric truggies that are faster through the turns than TC's. Sounds like fun to some but I promise you, if we get there you'll be looking for tracks and someone to race against because all of the people that like SCT's today will be gone.
Making an SCT perform like an ST is sort of secondary to the discussion. To me, it seems that SCT will steadily replace ST completely, which is fine, SCT is more unique among the existing classes than ST was.
My selfish hope is that this does get a little messy and everyone comes back to run 2wd buggy on a loose topsoil surface where you have traction, multiple fast lines and rooster tails!
)? One new thing here, one new thing there and before you know it, you're racing electric truggies that are faster through the turns than TC's. Sounds like fun to some but I promise you, if we get there you'll be looking for tracks and someone to race against because all of the people that like SCT's today will be gone.Making an SCT perform like an ST is sort of secondary to the discussion. To me, it seems that SCT will steadily replace ST completely, which is fine, SCT is more unique among the existing classes than ST was.
My selfish hope is that this does get a little messy and everyone comes back to run 2wd buggy on a loose topsoil surface where you have traction, multiple fast lines and rooster tails!
12-30-2010, 07:20 AM
#86
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I hate rules 
Here are the only rules I care about
keep-em SCT type tires (no 1/8), keep the tires under the body (looking from above), make sure it can fit in the length & width box, NO reverse, and 13.5 motors (17.5 slow and NO FUN, its one of many reasons why I am about to drop SCT class and stick with 1/10 buggy)
just my thoughts
it would be funny if they had a full scale 2wd SCT class (I think they are all 4x4 right) start using ribbed fronts b/c THEY WORK, would the tire be allowed in rc.
Here are the only rules I care aboutkeep-em SCT type tires (no 1/8), keep the tires under the body (looking from above), make sure it can fit in the length & width box, NO reverse, and 13.5 motors (17.5 slow and NO FUN, its one of many reasons why I am about to drop SCT class and stick with 1/10 buggy)
just my thoughts
it would be funny if they had a full scale 2wd SCT class (I think they are all 4x4 right) start using ribbed fronts b/c THEY WORK, would the tire be allowed in rc.
12-30-2010, 07:56 AM
#87
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Not every class needs to formula 1 but I don't know about you but when I race and no matter what class it is I try to make my cars/trucks handle as good as I can make them. I don't try to run the same lap times but I do try to improve my laptimes, just like I do in any class I race. Thats the fun to improve my handling so I can run faster on the track. I don't need to win as I'm racing against myself and improve me. If I run treads or ribbed tires so be it. Every SCT racing actually cuts their own tread patterns and I bet no team ever runs a so called stock type tire that everyone can buy. At least in R/C everyone can get these tires and has the same chance to improve their setup with them.
12-30-2010, 08:02 AM
#88
I have not always been a fan of some of the ROAR decisions but in a couple decades of doing this I have found that tracks with more rules stay in operation longer than tracks with less rules 100% of the time. Individually some rules can seem insignificant but imagine what SCT would be like if they had never outlawed 1/8 size wheels/tires (actually, it might be cheaper than it is now )? One new thing here, one new thing there and before you know it, you're racing electric truggies that are faster through the turns than TC's. Sounds like fun to some but I promise you, if we get there you'll be looking for tracks and someone to race against because all of the people that like SCT's today will be gone.
Making an SCT perform like an ST is sort of secondary to the discussion. To me, it seems that SCT will steadily replace ST completely, which is fine, SCT is more unique among the existing classes than ST was.
My selfish hope is that this does get a little messy and everyone comes back to run 2wd buggy on a loose topsoil surface where you have traction, multiple fast lines and rooster tails!
)? One new thing here, one new thing there and before you know it, you're racing electric truggies that are faster through the turns than TC's. Sounds like fun to some but I promise you, if we get there you'll be looking for tracks and someone to race against because all of the people that like SCT's today will be gone.Making an SCT perform like an ST is sort of secondary to the discussion. To me, it seems that SCT will steadily replace ST completely, which is fine, SCT is more unique among the existing classes than ST was.
My selfish hope is that this does get a little messy and everyone comes back to run 2wd buggy on a loose topsoil surface where you have traction, multiple fast lines and rooster tails!
along with the tall and narrow tires...
however as you know david, we mostly agree....
12-30-2010, 08:03 AM
#89
if they came out with a cab forward design, i would NOT buy that....THAT messes with the SCT appearance....
12-30-2010, 08:06 AM
#90
It's a perfect comparison (TC racing and SCT racing). You obviously haven't been around long enough to remember when TC racing began (hence, your tire comment is WAY off). TC began as Tamiya 4wd plastic kits that could be run in parking lots and looked scale. They were cheap and fun (sound familiar?). All the existing classes of the time had become too specialized to run on anything other than manicured surfaces.
It's not this "one" tire, it's evidence of an initiative to govern the class continually in order to protect it. Don't be surprised if all pin treaded tires are banned in the future.
It's not this "one" tire, it's evidence of an initiative to govern the class continually in order to protect it. Don't be surprised if all pin treaded tires are banned in the future.
Touring car racing might have been cheap and fun back then but the expense of touring racing has shot up huge numbers now. Off-road has been very consistant. 1983: asc RC10 costs about 250.00(at least that what I paid for mine), shoot to today the new losi 22 is 270.00, rc10t about 250.00, T4 240.00. How much is a top touring car: 450.00+
Also I'm not saying that Roar's ribbed tire rule is a bad thing, it's better for them to be proactive then retroactive. I mean if they had been proactive I wouldn't need a computer with me at the track and at least it's more useful than tire warmers.
man my 17.5 is blue, is that legal??
Last edited by Kent Beal; 12-30-2010 at 08:24 AM.