Not to impressed with MMP.....
#1
Not to impressed with MMP.....
well bought a MMP to go in my hyper 10 sc with a novak 4.5. i run a CCBEC with it and a 40 c 4000 pack and the thing doesnt seem nearly as smooth as the vxl i had. esp in the "smart sense" mode. sensored mode is ok but compared to the vxl its night and day. i ran cheat mode and that was terrible, made the throttle very unpredictable.
so what im asking is, is this normal? ive had several sidewinders and they were fine unsensored but this thing is just :/ any special setting i need to try? granted i was in the dark mostly but ill try it again tomorrow and see if my opinion changes.
so what im asking is, is this normal? ive had several sidewinders and they were fine unsensored but this thing is just :/ any special setting i need to try? granted i was in the dark mostly but ill try it again tomorrow and see if my opinion changes.
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well bought a MMP to go in my hyper 10 sc with a novak 4.5. i run a CCBEC with it and a 40 c 4000 pack and the thing doesnt seem nearly as smooth as the vxl i had. esp in the "smart sense" mode. sensored mode is ok but compared to the vxl its night and day. i ran cheat mode and that was terrible, made the throttle very unpredictable.
so what im asking is, is this normal? ive had several sidewinders and they were fine unsensored but this thing is just :/ any special setting i need to try? granted i was in the dark mostly but ill try it again tomorrow and see if my opinion changes.
so what im asking is, is this normal? ive had several sidewinders and they were fine unsensored but this thing is just :/ any special setting i need to try? granted i was in the dark mostly but ill try it again tomorrow and see if my opinion changes.
#3
Try basic settings first. Disable Power and CHEAT. Set punch to 0. Timing normal. Etc...
Cheat is not designed for your type of setup. I would expect Smart Sense to work fine though. Make sure the sensor wire is seated good... double check it or try another wire.
Others have run the Pro with the HV motors so hopefully someone can post what settings they use.
You ran a VXL with the 4.5?
Cheat is not designed for your type of setup. I would expect Smart Sense to work fine though. Make sure the sensor wire is seated good... double check it or try another wire.
Others have run the Pro with the HV motors so hopefully someone can post what settings they use.
You ran a VXL with the 4.5?
#4
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the mmp is a very low quality esc. went through 3 brand new ones in 2 weeks with a stock 4600 castle motor. got a vxl after the 3rd went, never looked back. its faster and smoother, and hey, im on my same one, and its been over 6 monthes..........castles quality has gone down hill to say the least
#6
Before you make a thread being "not impressed" with one of the best if not the best esc on the market you should deft do some homework and more testing with it, not in your driveway after you just got done putting it together. Orrr just maybe there is something wrong with it and that can happen, but all assumptions aside you got to play with it more, because there's no way vxl and mmp should be in the same sentence.
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the mmp is a very low quality esc. went through 3 brand new ones in 2 weeks with a stock 4600 castle motor. got a vxl after the 3rd went, never looked back. its faster and smoother, and hey, im on my same one, and its been over 6 monthes..........castles quality has gone down hill to say the least
Again anything is possible but its almost impoosible to go thru 3 in that short amount of time. Are guy running oval this week are running 3.5 and 4.5s and can't burn them up and thats alot harder than any 4600 would be on a MMP
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I wish you where in my area because I know for a fact if I set it up your not going thru one in that short of time............period. I setup almost every racer that buys from are shop and never since the day they came out had your problems. Something is not right with the setup or something else is causing them to go bad because 3 of them in 2 weeks tells me something else is causing the problem.
#9
I wish you where in my area because I know for a fact if I set it up your not going thru one in that short of time............period. I setup almost every racer that buys from are shop and never since the day they came out had your problems. Something is not right with the setup or something else is causing them to go bad because 3 of them in 2 weeks tells me something else is causing the problem.
I sponsored 5 people last summer, 2 had the MMP. Those two guys are now running Tekin, their speedo's also fried. I liked the MMP when it was working but it was to unreliable for me or my team mates.
And I have tested them with multiple setups, not just one. Different motors, different packs different trucks. I have yet to get one that works.
#10
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After installing an ext bec (actually annoying) on 2s the esc feels very smooth with my 6.5 in 2wd mod (slightly overkill motor, i know), finally i'm happy with it.
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Did you use the Castle link and turn up the voltage on the stock bec? Only because the oval guys run 3.5 and 4.5 motors and draw alot of power out in a 4 minute run but use the stock bec and high end digital servo. Some add an additional cap because of the huge power draw the oval guys use up. They even run mad timing on these setups as they are crazy fast.
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Mine was over a 3 month period. First one fried, I was told by Castle to put on a BEC, I did, both still fired. I think they have good motors and customer service and also ran a Mamba Max without issue for almost a year. I'm not here to bash on Castle... but for me I got a serious bad batch of MMP.
I sponsored 5 people last summer, 2 had the MMP. Those two guys are now running Tekin, their speedo's also fried. I liked the MMP when it was working but it was to unreliable for me or my team mates.
And I have tested them with multiple setups, not just one. Different motors, different packs different trucks. I have yet to get one that works.
I sponsored 5 people last summer, 2 had the MMP. Those two guys are now running Tekin, their speedo's also fried. I liked the MMP when it was working but it was to unreliable for me or my team mates.
And I have tested them with multiple setups, not just one. Different motors, different packs different trucks. I have yet to get one that works.
I watched every top brand either burn on fire (mainly Novaks) and watche the Tekins and Castle just smoke and melt. I will say that most of the time something else caused the speedo to melt down, (loose wires, bad lipo, I had bad servos cause it and some other weird things and then I seen just the speedo be the problem.
Electronics are weird things. I like the setup everyone one that runs thru the shop for customers unless I know them and they are seasoned racers. Then again some of the worst for doing things are racers for what ever reason.
I feel since I done so many and work with the Castle Link almost daily I can stop alot of problems before they can pop up. Guys know I'm very anal when it comes to wiring things up nice and neat for customers. Just a habit I guess but don't want the customers to have problems if I can help it.
#13
I know it is possible to burn them up. Are track is the opposite as we send way more Tekin and Novak stuff back but we sell 10 to 1 Castle over anything else.
I watched every top brand either burn on fire (mainly Novaks) and watche the Tekins and Castle just smoke and melt. I will say that most of the time something else caused the speedo to melt down, (loose wires, bad lipo, I had bad servos cause it and some other weird things and then I seen just the speedo be the problem.
Electronics are weird things. I like the setup everyone one that runs thru the shop for customers unless I know them and they are seasoned racers. Then again some of the worst for doing things are racers for what ever reason.
I feel since I done so many and work with the Castle Link almost daily I can stop alot of problems before they can pop up. Guys know I'm very anal when it comes to wiring things up nice and neat for customers. Just a habit I guess but don't want the customers to have problems if I can help it.
I watched every top brand either burn on fire (mainly Novaks) and watche the Tekins and Castle just smoke and melt. I will say that most of the time something else caused the speedo to melt down, (loose wires, bad lipo, I had bad servos cause it and some other weird things and then I seen just the speedo be the problem.
Electronics are weird things. I like the setup everyone one that runs thru the shop for customers unless I know them and they are seasoned racers. Then again some of the worst for doing things are racers for what ever reason.
I feel since I done so many and work with the Castle Link almost daily I can stop alot of problems before they can pop up. Guys know I'm very anal when it comes to wiring things up nice and neat for customers. Just a habit I guess but don't want the customers to have problems if I can help it.
I thought the issue was running 2S on the 550 motors, but have read about them smoking in Crawlers and normal 540's with stock turns it looks more wide spread. We would share settings from the MMP's in the Jammin & MMP thread trying to trouble shoot issues, some worked some didn't. It was strange that guys could run their 1/8th scales on 4-6s and we couldn't run on 2s in 1/10th 4wd SC's.
Either way I look at it, I will have three spare speedos in-case I need them.
#14
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Did you use the Castle link and turn up the voltage on the stock bec? Only because the oval guys run 3.5 and 4.5 motors and draw alot of power out in a 4 minute run but use the stock bec and high end digital servo. Some add an additional cap because of the huge power draw the oval guys use up. They even run mad timing on these setups as they are crazy fast.
#15
Try basic settings first. Disable Power and CHEAT. Set punch to 0. Timing normal. Etc...
Cheat is not designed for your type of setup. I would expect Smart Sense to work fine though. Make sure the sensor wire is seated good... double check it or try another wire.
Others have run the Pro with the HV motors so hopefully someone can post what settings they use.
You ran a VXL with the 4.5?
Cheat is not designed for your type of setup. I would expect Smart Sense to work fine though. Make sure the sensor wire is seated good... double check it or try another wire.
Others have run the Pro with the HV motors so hopefully someone can post what settings they use.
You ran a VXL with the 4.5?