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Old 10-03-2011, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by celt View Post
Everyone should keep in mind that the "Evans" setups went from shorty packs to full size packs. Make sure that is relative to what you are trying to achieve.

You're looking at almost 100 grams weight difference.
We only run the full size pack outdoors, on high grip blue groove tracks. All indoor tracks are shorty pack tracks.


Originally Posted by Matt M. View Post
ok, i i asked about the revised setup and battrey usage as i works on an indoor track,, here is what i got from frank, (correct me if i am wrong )

revised DE

start with the latest DE setup,

27.5 wt oil
1d rear link
shorty lipo

red spring for a tight smallish track
orange for large flowing

spindle up easier driving, better in sweeper..no noticeable lack of steering

i was told the "big pack works better on the large outdoor style tracks..but shorty rules indoos
That is all correct
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Old 10-03-2011, 10:54 AM
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For all you guys running NT 17.5 Losi has just released a 70T spur that will help get you gearing call enough to get the most out of your NT 17.5 motor without using other brand gears! I used one of these for testing at this years Shootout and it works great!

http://www.tlracing.com/Products/Def...ProdID=TLR3978
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Love the shorty Xcelorin packs so much and I haven't found the need to use a normal sized pack since I only run on a tight indoor clay track.
Car is near perfect with the short packs here.
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Old 10-03-2011, 11:42 AM
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Little confused on the gearing on a 17.5 NT & No Boost. Back in the 80's when I use to race B4 Lipos & BL motors we use to Gear Down with a smaller pinion for more acceleration and less top end. But some of what I am reading almost seems to be the opposite with today's setups???
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Little confused on the gearing on a 17.5 NT & No Boost. Back in the 80's when I use to race B4 Lipos & BL motors we use to Gear Down with a smaller pinion for more acceleration and less top end. But some of what I am reading almost seems to be the opposite with today's setups???
In the early days of BL and lipo for me we were always looking for ways to get taller. We were using onroad gears on adpaters that eliminated the slipper. 17.5 BL motors need pretty tall gearing to make any decent power at all.
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Old 10-03-2011, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by twalace View Post
Little confused on the gearing on a 17.5 NT & No Boost. Back in the 80's when I use to race B4 Lipos & BL motors we use to Gear Down with a smaller pinion for more acceleration and less top end. But some of what I am reading almost seems to be the opposite with today's setups???
It's still the same thing, smaller pinions = more torque and less top end but the difference is that brushless motors have way more torque and love to be geared really, really high. So high you better temp it to find the limit.

Also playing with the motor's timing will help you dial in torque vs top end too, just keep an eye on temps, especially when pushing a 17.5 to it's limits.

Some (Danny S. ) will tell you to crank up the timing AND gear it to the moon! Also depends on what your comfort level is for max heat for your stuff.
Some say up to 180* still lets them sleep ok at night.
Me, not so much.
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:33 PM
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Well now that makes sense then. Think I just found some more time off my laps I have been missing! Now if I could as easily change the gearing on my driving...lol
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Hansie2 View Post
Try this site

http://users.telenet.be/elvo/

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Not sure if anyone has posted this lately, but here you go.
http://home.scarlet.be/~be067749/58/bug/print.htm
and... http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13176733184691

Thanks for the help guys! I've been printing this stuff so I can keep it with me at the track and studying it when I have free time.

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Old 10-03-2011, 02:59 PM
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Just got done at the J Concepts race at RC Excitement. Running 17.5 and all I can say is what a blast the car is. Second race with the car for me and I finished 4th in the A. Durability is second to none. I put the car thru some bad spills and a few run-ins with the cinder blocks(oops) but nothing broke. It was amazing to watch Evans race the 22, 22T and the short course truck. TLR 22 buggy = dialed
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:02 PM
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the only way you can break this car is to get pealed by a 1/8th buggy.
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I raced mine Saturday for the first time. I've got some adjustments to make to get it setup for the track I run at, but it was AWESOME and so much fun! For this track, it's the car I prefer the most!
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Anyone using an R10 pro with a 17.5 with timing? I came up with an okay setup for it, but looking for someone else's insight
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Originally Posted by twalace View Post
Well now that makes sense then. Think I just found some more time off my laps I have been missing! Now if I could as easily change the gearing on my driving...lol
I know you typically race at Airland with a very short straight therefor you don't need to gear very high what so ever! You should gear for the infield so you have good bottom end and if you don't have enough gear to accelerate down the entire straight gear up to a bigger pinion. When I ran a 22 there I was geared 76/27 for no timing Or boost because the straight was so short. Temps at 7 minutes were never greater than 130. Had a great combination of straight speed and torque in the infield. For instance at West Coast with a roughly 125 foot straight I was geared at 76/33 and was coming off at 165 but had to gear veryhigh for the more open flowing infield and long straight.
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by -WHEELMAN- View Post
I know you typically race at Airland with a very short straight therefor you don't need to gear very high what so ever! You should gear for the infield so you have good bottom end and if you don't have enough gear to accelerate down the entire straight gear up to a bigger pinion. When I ran a 22 there I was geared 76/27 for no timing Or boost because the straight was so short. Temps at 7 minutes were never greater than 130. Had a great combination of straight speed and torque in the infield. For instance at West Coast with a roughly 125 foot straight I was geared at 76/33 and was coming off at 165 but had to gear veryhigh for the more open flowing infield and long straight.
Currently running 76/25 but thinking of giving 76/27 or 76/29 a try from all the input, thank's!
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the only way you can break this car is to get pealed by a 1/8th buggy.
...or if you bounce off a porkchop into a concrete wall.
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