B44.1 Thread
#1696
Tech Lord
iTrader: (22)
Okay I am on a keyboard now. If your running a hot mod 30 minutes is going to be a tough time to hit. You might at 120/130 degrees but you will most likely need a 13.5 10.5 geared perfect.
The heat is bad on the motor at high temps and to many thermals will ruin your electronics. And dumping lipos will end up with a bad cell over time. I dump mine down to 7.75 in a 10/15 minute run and keeping peak temp of 120/130 is hard to achieve over that amount of time in race set ups.
If ya pull it off post up your settings and motor gearing.
The heat is bad on the motor at high temps and to many thermals will ruin your electronics. And dumping lipos will end up with a bad cell over time. I dump mine down to 7.75 in a 10/15 minute run and keeping peak temp of 120/130 is hard to achieve over that amount of time in race set ups.
If ya pull it off post up your settings and motor gearing.
#1697
Tech Rookie
I guess my setup does qualify for fairly high end. I'll just see how things go and maybe pickup a couple extra sets of batteries. At the moment I'm waiting till monday to call AE to get one of the rear A arm shims that was missing from my kit. On the plus side I've got everything installed short of the shocks and tires.
#1698
Tech Lord
iTrader: (22)
I guess my setup does qualify for fairly high end. I'll just see how things go and maybe pickup a couple extra sets of batteries. At the moment I'm waiting till monday to call AE to get one of the rear A arm shims that was missing from my kit. On the plus side I've got everything installed short of the shocks and tires.
Watch the motor temps and ESC temps get the gearing correct and you will be fine either way.
#1700
Tech Apprentice
iTrader: (5)
having trouble with my set up
So i have been having trouble with my 44.1 at the track. it is a medium sized track made of a clay/dirt mix that is washed out pretty badly. it is very hard to jump on this track due to that fact. the jumps are fairly big. its got one double with the landing on a table top and then into another double followed by a big tripple and then one more double. the jumps are bordering on 1/8th scale to be honest.I have upped my shock oil weight to 32.5 in the front and 37.5 in the rear,raising the ride height up to around 27-28 mm with the same effect. I am somewhat of a nube but i know ive got to stay on the throttle when jumping with this beast. I have also got the 87g ballast weight and even put another half ounce right in front of the tower to help combat this problem. and im getting tired of braking stuff. I broke both of my diff housings, front arms and cracked both of my towers trying to figure this out. any advice would I think help.
thanks,
klops
thanks,
klops
#1701
Tech Master
iTrader: (70)
So i have been having trouble with my 44.1 at the track. it is a medium sized track made of a clay/dirt mix that is washed out pretty badly. it is very hard to jump on this track due to that fact. the jumps are fairly big. its got one double with the landing on a table top and then into another double followed by a big tripple and then one more double. the jumps are bordering on 1/8th scale to be honest.I have upped my shock oil weight to 32.5 in the front and 37.5 in the rear,raising the ride height up to around 27-28 mm with the same effect. I am somewhat of a nube but i know ive got to stay on the throttle when jumping with this beast. I have also got the 87g ballast weight and even put another half ounce right in front of the tower to help combat this problem. and im getting tired of braking stuff. I broke both of my diff housings, front arms and cracked both of my towers trying to figure this out. any advice would I think help.
thanks,
klops
thanks,
klops
What motor are you running? gearing?
Most of the setups I have seen run the thicker oil in front not the rear.?.?
#1702
Tech Apprentice
iTrader: (5)
thanks
klops
#1703
A car itself jump doesn't jump bad. As long as your car is setup properly(nothin weird) it's all about driving. Now it can be an esc setting problem if your brakes or drag brakes are set too high.
Your a noob so I'll give ya some advice from a 20 year vet. Driving is 90% of rc. Practice driving... Put the kit setup in your car down to a" T" don't skip anything. Make sure your Esc settings are correct, smooth brakes and throttle and. Just practice driving!!! 4whl is very sensitive to throttle/brake inputs! Throttle brings the nose up/ brakes bring the nose down. Typically letting off the gas too soon on a jump causes the nose to dive in the air.
Your a noob so I'll give ya some advice from a 20 year vet. Driving is 90% of rc. Practice driving... Put the kit setup in your car down to a" T" don't skip anything. Make sure your Esc settings are correct, smooth brakes and throttle and. Just practice driving!!! 4whl is very sensitive to throttle/brake inputs! Throttle brings the nose up/ brakes bring the nose down. Typically letting off the gas too soon on a jump causes the nose to dive in the air.
#1704
Tech Lord
iTrader: (22)
A car itself jump doesn't jump bad. As long as your car is setup properly(nothin weird) it's all about driving. Now it can be an esc setting problem if your brakes or drag brakes are set too high.
Your a noob so I'll give ya some advice from a 20 year vet. Driving is 90% of rc. Practice driving... Put the kit setup in your car down to a" T" don't skip anything. Make sure your Esc settings are correct, smooth brakes and throttle and. Just practice driving!!! 4whl is very sensitive to throttle/brake inputs! Throttle brings the nose up/ brakes bring the nose down. Typically letting off the gas too soon on a jump causes the nose to dive in the air.
Your a noob so I'll give ya some advice from a 20 year vet. Driving is 90% of rc. Practice driving... Put the kit setup in your car down to a" T" don't skip anything. Make sure your Esc settings are correct, smooth brakes and throttle and. Just practice driving!!! 4whl is very sensitive to throttle/brake inputs! Throttle brings the nose up/ brakes bring the nose down. Typically letting off the gas too soon on a jump causes the nose to dive in the air.
Try the box stock oils first with the 87g ballast. Don't get away from the stock set up other than the oils.
If the track is real bumpy try some losi 25 in the rear with 35 losi in the front. No weights. If your running 25 35 AE run the weights. 87g. If its bumpy then the stiffer oil will make it unstable. Good luck and keep us informed.
#1705
Tech Addict
iTrader: (6)
sorry about lack of description. my nose dives after taking off of the lip of the jumps causing me to wreck, look like a dumb ass and break stuff.. I dont really mind looking like a dumbass cus im a relative nube but it gets emberrasing . I ran thicker oil in back because of the nose diving problem.I was trying to add a little pack thinking that the nose dive problem was caused by chassis slap. I also laid the shocks down front and rear (inner holes on the towers and outer holes on the armsto try and make more stable.) didn't really want to tweak the front too much as far as oils go. the motor is a hobbywing 9 turn 4300 kv the gearing is 18/84. I accidently bought an 84 instead of an 81 so I will be switching back relatively soon. if there is anything else you need to know let me know. oh yeah I went and bought some mip bypass1 pistons to help cure the problem. I almost actually bought kyosho big bores as well...
thanks
klops
thanks
klops
Good luck.
#1706
Tech Apprentice
iTrader: (5)
Are you the only car that is having problems with the nose diving? If the face of the jumps are messed up it can cause the rear of the car to kick up and then nose dive. Are 2WD buggies handling these jumps ok? I would ask some one experienced at the track if they could help you out. Someone with experience could probably pinpoint a problem pretty quickly.
Good luck.
Good luck.
#1707
Tech Addict
iTrader: (3)
It took me a while to get used to throttle control on my first 4wd car. You have so much control of attitude since you have 4 tires under power and a lot of motor. It is all about throttle control in the air. You can not let off the throttle in the air (especially if you have drag brake) because the nose will drop. You should also not have any trouble getting the nose up by using some throttle inputs.
I would do what others have said on here. Go to the box set-up as it is very good and practice driving it. You might also give your car to an experienced driver and have them wheel it around the track. If they have troubles, then you may actually have a problem, but I don't think it will be the box set-up. It would be more likely to be an ESC issue regarding throttle and brake settings.
I would do what others have said on here. Go to the box set-up as it is very good and practice driving it. You might also give your car to an experienced driver and have them wheel it around the track. If they have troubles, then you may actually have a problem, but I don't think it will be the box set-up. It would be more likely to be an ESC issue regarding throttle and brake settings.