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CT RACER 10-01-2012 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by adamym (Post 11274148)
Has anyone run the avid triad slipper as well as the vst slipper for the 4x4 sc10? Are they worth it? I read that the garolite pads are pretty legit as well. What are the differences in between the three different setups?

You can't use the vts in the 44.1 you have to get the 44.2 chassie and if you get that you need the top decks. I here the avid triad is well worth it.

Jmuck69 10-01-2012 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by CT RACER (Post 11275339)
You can't use the vts in the 44.1 you have to get the 44.2 chassie and if you get that you need the top decks. I here the avid triad is well worth it.

PDub mentioned that a spacer will be available for the Triad when used in the B44.2 due to the increased distance of the bulkheads.

bergie33 10-01-2012 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by TJMac (Post 11274536)
I think you need the cradle as well. I want to do the same thing, the thumb nuts are PITA.

I am thinking that the FT shafts that hold the thumb screws should also be able to hold the ball stud and quick release from the 44.2 straps.

ALIEN3T 10-01-2012 02:53 PM

WEll i know WEST Coast RC in Cali just got the BB shock kits in today.

JEFFs SC10 10-01-2012 06:41 PM

so is everyone trying to dump off their 44.1 for the 44.2? LOL

CT RACER 10-01-2012 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Jmuck69 (Post 11275376)
PDub mentioned that a spacer will be available for the Triad when used in the B44.2 due to the increased distance of the bulkheads.

so you can use both for the 44.2 and just the traid for the 44.2.

TJMac 10-02-2012 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 11276575)
so is everyone trying to dump off their 44.1 for the 44.2? LOL

Not sure what I'm doing with mine. If I keep it (this fall has sucked, I barely have time to race, 4wd buggy even less) I'll probably upgrade it one chunk at a time starting with the suspension.

I might sell it and see if -

(a) I get more time to race after the 1st of the year
(b) the class picks up a little with the 44.2 intruduction + Xray buggy + Losi buggy (hopefully)

If either (a) or (b) or both happen I'll pick up a 44.2.

Hard to sell, its a fun a$$ car to drive.

07Forester 10-02-2012 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 11276575)
so is everyone trying to dump off their 44.1 for the 44.2? LOL

I was planning on dumping my fresh 44.1 until my wife suggested that she'd like to run 4wd buggy with me. A lot of the female racers in the area run wheeler so they can have girl time lol.

MiamizFinest 10-05-2012 10:00 AM

Question guys, what tires are you guys using on ozite carpet set ups? Thanks in advance for your recommendations!

tc1 10-05-2012 04:34 PM

Anybody ran the wolfpack saddle yet? Just curious of runtime with only 4800mah. I think it will be enough, but may be pretty close. I plan to run a 6.5 in a .1 On a decent sized indoor track.

T

NitroLuver 10-05-2012 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by tc1 (Post 11291573)
Anybody ran the wolfpack saddle yet? Just curious of runtime with only 4800mah. I think it will be enough, but may be pretty close. I plan to run a 6.5 in a .1 On a decent sized indoor track.

T

runtime should be fine..as long as you aren't trying to run 12+minute mains, though wheelers are powerful they're light and don't use crazy amounts of Mah from batteries

gguertin145 10-07-2012 08:53 PM

I just purchased a b44.1 and built it... I am going to upgrade to a .2 instead of upgrading. If anyone is looking for a brand new b44.1 just built let me know its in the for sale thread.

racer1812 10-07-2012 09:04 PM

And that's where it should be.

Just like all the guys posting V2 shocks for sale, STOP POSTING THAT YOU HAVE THIS STUFF FOR SALE! We have a FS section for a reason, the next guy gets 7 days off.

Geotechy18 10-08-2012 04:45 PM

Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone has tried the front aluminum carriers(part# ASC9721) for the b44.1? Are they useful performance wise, and not just for durability?

I was considering getting them, but with the price, I wanted to be completely sure. :/

Chase1472 10-09-2012 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by Geotechy18 (Post 11301820)
Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone has tried the front aluminum carriers(part# ASC9721) for the b44.1? Are they useful performance wise, and not just for durability?

I was considering getting them, but with the price, I wanted to be completely sure. :/

There is no real need for them. Don't waste your money on them unless you like BLING. The best three upgrades are Ballast weight, Big bores,and Triad slipper.

Geotechy18 10-09-2012 12:24 PM

Ah, ok, thank you so much Chaser. :). I was stressing over it since I do like to have a little bit of aluminum on my cars to have them look nice, but I finally got my b44.1 to the spec that I wanted it to be for a while since I am going to be racing soon.

Now I just gotta save up for the upgrades that come with the b44.2.:nod:

I was also considering getting the front aluminum tower mount, but I didn't want to stiffen the car up too much since I'll be racing mostly outdoor.

Would the front aluminum tower mount be a good upgrade? Or is it just another part to add a little bit of weight and stiffen up the front?

MOmo 10-09-2012 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Geotechy18 (Post 11305236)
Now I just gotta save up for the upgrades that come with the b44.2.:nod:

I was also considering getting the front aluminum tower mount, but I didn't want to stiffen the car up too much since I'll be racing mostly outdoor.

Would the front aluminum tower mount be a good upgrade? Or is it just another part to add a little bit of weight and stiffen up the front?


I added the Al Fr brace to mine, as well as the rear one and the new JC wing mount. I figured the rigidity would help. I don't think the weight is THAT significant IMO. Just make sure that you use a drop of Threadlock (Or in my case Clear nail polish) on the screws going thru it.

I haven't added any ballast weight, but then again, I've only run a couple times and our local indoor clay track is closing down. Racing here is up in the air.

I got SUCH a screaming deal on mine, I probably will just go for the upgrades and not a complete car. Talked to some who like the Std. bore shock but with the Avid/Kyo/Los BB spring upgrade, so I might try those. Lots depend on local racing and what happens there.


MOmo

adamym 10-10-2012 11:46 PM

Okay you guys, here's a loaded question. I'm looking to buy a new mod motor for the b44.1, most likely a 6.5, I'd typically go with a fantom, but also considering an lrp....does anyone have any recommendations? I also have a new speed passion reventon pro coming. Should I try that in the buggy instead of my tekin rs pro?

fredd32 10-11-2012 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by adamym (Post 11312041)
Okay you guys, here's a loaded question. I'm looking to buy a new mod motor for the b44.1, most likely a 6.5, I'd typically go with a fantom, but also considering an lrp....does anyone have any recommendations? I also have a new speed passion reventon pro coming. Should I try that in the buggy instead of my tekin rs pro?

I am running reedy sonic 6.5 and love it!!!

MOmo 10-12-2012 01:07 AM


Originally Posted by adamym (Post 11312041)
Okay you guys, here's a loaded question. I'm looking to buy a new mod motor for the b44.1, most likely a 6.5, I'd typically go with a fantom, but also considering an lrp....does anyone have any recommendations? I also have a new speed passion reventon pro coming. Should I try that in the buggy instead of my tekin rs pro?

Either are good choices. I personally am using a Peak 8.5 for my smaller indoor track and it seems to work great Though I am still breaking in the new buggy, so i don't have a complete picture yet.

let me know how you like that Reventon. I am using a GT 2.0 in my 44.1 and am considering the upgrade when i have the $$. I have never ran the Tekin personally, I've driven other friends who have it and I like the smoothness of the SP stuff.



MOmo

Lonestar 10-12-2012 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by racer1812 (Post 11298584)
And that's where it should be.

Just like all the guys posting V2 shocks for sale, STOP POSTING THAT YOU HAVE THIS STUFF FOR SALE! We have a FS section for a reason, the next guy gets 7 days off.


thank you :nod:

07Forester 10-12-2012 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by fredd32 (Post 11315821)
I am running reedy sonic 6.5 and love it!!!

If I were you, try the revtech d3.5. You won't regret it.

FACTORYBUTNOT 10-14-2012 07:01 PM

I'm running a LRP 7.5 in my 44.1 and it's super fast! I may put in a Reedy 8.5 instead to mellow the car out. The Avid slipper seems to be working very well in my car...the stock slipper had a hard time dealing with alot of HP!

3srcracing 10-16-2012 06:52 PM

How would the Traxxas 1/10 stuff handle in this buggy? I know it's not sensor-ed but I was just wondering.

beazer30801 10-16-2012 08:10 PM

Traxxas stuff
 
Cooper you will have trouble fitting the ESC in the B44 there's not a lot of room and that ESC is pretty big.

adamym 10-17-2012 11:23 AM

I think the main problem is that the traxxas speedo is tall with the heat sink. I just installed my speed passion reventon pro which has a bigger footprint than the tekin rs pro and the orion r10 pro. I think a good basis is that if anything is taller than the top plate the body won't fit over it very well, if at all.

NitroLuver 10-17-2012 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by FACTORYBUTNOT (Post 11325346)
I'm running a LRP 7.5 in my 44.1 and it's super fast! I may put in a Reedy 8.5 instead to mellow the car out. The Avid slipper seems to be working very well in my car...the stock slipper had a hard time dealing with alot of HP!

on my first b44.1 I started with a reedy 8.5(lacked to much power), went to a dualsky 7.5(power was better) but for the jbrl layout @ oc/rc I couldn't clear the back triple, ended with reedy 6.5..plenty of power everywhere. I just picked up a buddies b44.1 for a smoking deal and it has a tekin 6.5/rs pro setup on power is pretty good on it 2...I think 6.5 is where it's at on the mod wheeler unless you're running on a flat track w/lots of corners.

MOmo 10-17-2012 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by NitroLuver (Post 11336425)
.I think 6.5 is where it's at on the mod wheeler unless you're running on a flat track w/lots of corners.

I think it depends on the size of the track. Small indoor tracks might do better with a 10.5 or 8.5. For larger outdoor tracks a 6.5 could be the better choice.

I'll be racing mine Friday night. Can't wait.




Momo

Nexus 10-18-2012 08:39 AM

Can anyone recommend a starting point for a 9.5T?

I realize there are other considerations like timing, track size, etc. Just looking for a starting point running a B44.1 w/ a 9.5T on a medium size indoor clay track. I'm new to the B44.1


Thanks.

ALIEN3T 10-18-2012 08:48 AM

So fo rindoor, ye'al;l think a 6.5-5.5 good for a track runnign 1/8 scale alse? 10.5 i had seamed a little like runnign a 17.5 on a regular track?

mjk1210 10-18-2012 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Nexus (Post 11339737)
Can anyone recommend a starting point for a 9.5T?

I realize there are other considerations like timing, track size, etc. Just looking for a starting point running a B44.1 w/ a 9.5T on a medium size indoor clay track. I'm new to the B44.1


Thanks.

easily 23/78. you could play with another tooth or two, Im sure. But that should feel pretty good with that car and not get too hot.

Nexus 10-18-2012 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by mjk1210 (Post 11339956)
easily 23/78. you could play with another tooth or two, Im sure. But that should feel pretty good with that car and not get too hot.


Thanks. I'm getting the car tonight and running it for the first time this weekend at Timewarp. I'll be up at LHR sometime in November hopefully.

mjk1210 10-18-2012 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by MOmo (Post 11338708)
I think it depends on the size of the track. Small indoor tracks might do better with a 10.5 or 8.5. For larger outdoor tracks a 6.5 could be the better choice.

I'll be racing mine Friday night. Can't wait.




Momo

6.5 is alot of motor and is easy to get out of control especially out of the corners.
10.5 is the smoothest mod motor that can get all the needed speed with a little boost for the long straights if geared properly.
It kinda depends on your skill level too. If you are a very good driver than the 6.5 can work great. If you are just ok, stick with the 8.5-10.5 range.

JEFFs SC10 10-18-2012 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by 07Forester (Post 11316957)
If I were you, try the revtech d3.5. You won't regret it.

I thought about doing that, my 6.5 feels slow.

Chase1472 10-18-2012 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 11340232)
I thought about doing that, my 6.5 feels slow.

Start cranking the timing on the ESC. The reedy motors have a diffrent power band than others. I think the LRP is the fastest if you need good speed.

JEFFs SC10 10-18-2012 11:33 AM

how much timing? I know i have to temp it.

-WHEELMAN- 10-18-2012 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 11340232)
I thought about doing that, my 6.5 feels slow.

Do not add motor or esc timing to a 6.5!!!!!!! If it is slow you are geared incorrectly or there is a bigger issue with the motor!! Add two teeth to the pinion at a time and temp every three minutes until you get it to 160 after 7 minutes and it will be a rocket!!

rickybobbyxxx 10-18-2012 12:46 PM

[QUOTE=JEFFs SC10;11340328]how much timing? I know i have to temp it.[/QUO. If your using a duo 3 give it 40 degrees of endbell timing and hit it with a little bit of boost using 18 tooth pinion and it will be a rocket

Wild Cherry 10-18-2012 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 11340328)
how much timing? I know i have to temp it.

Jeff , a lot of guys bump the timing to smooth the motor down or bring better throttle control ..
Works great ....;)


can go the other way too , reduce the timing .

will make for slower , but not so good for control ...

Myself using timing turn up almost all the way , just one notch from max timing.

7.5 Reedy

JEFFs SC10 10-18-2012 05:12 PM

Thanks guys,

Hey quick question, what weight oil do you run in the front? 32.5 sound ok? I run on medium grip outdoor and indoor tracks with good size jumps.


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