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79kmc 09-21-2012 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by toronto_rc (Post 11236585)
I thought the B44 used proprietary 9.5mm front hexes...

There not 12mm hexes on the front i'm pretty sure they are 9.5mm or 10mm hexes

79kmc 09-21-2012 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by UN4RACING (Post 11236338)
One of the best things about the 44 is it is a steering bandit. Plenty of steering...:nod:

The front already has 12mm on front box stock, you will have to invest in 12mm hexes for the rear if you choose.

10.5 thru 6.5 is all good the more you dial it in and the faster you get will best confirm the motor you want. I have even ran a 5.5 on mine.

Some will argue the front end is weak but honestly its not the kit. I have raced the 44 platform for years. Its all driver error on the front end.
Stock up on front shock shafts, caps, eyelets, and a-arms. A couple of sets of gear assemblies and you should be good. Clean driving and you wont need even worry about the front end at all. It takes a pretty serious hit to break it or a just right hit.

Im pretty sure they are 9.5mm or 10mm hexes on the front, they are definitely not 12mm

UN4RACING 09-21-2012 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by 79kmc (Post 11236619)
Im pretty sure they are 9.5mm or 10mm hexes on the front, they are definitely not 12mm

If so my bad thanx for correcting me I thought they were. I am going to be running hexes this year when I get around to putting my new kit together. I better be sure so I can get the right size for my wheels. Thanx.

UN4RACING 09-21-2012 12:34 PM

I bought some B44.1 front JC 12mm hex wheels for the my new kit. But I couldn't find any hexes for the front of the kit so I assumed they were already 12mm. So I checked the JC package it states 12mm but they of not. Weird?

rigor 09-21-2012 12:54 PM

Guys... I'm pretty certain It's 12mm hexes front and back on the 44.1 kit. I'll check once home.

Asharus 09-21-2012 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by TJMac (Post 10731234)
No. B44.1 front hex is 9mm (or maybe 9.5mm). Even if you were able to switch hexes, the B4.1 front hex wheels have a much different offset.


Originally Posted by rigor (Post 11237911)
Guys... I'm pretty certain It's 12mm hexes front and back on the 44.1 kit. I'll check once home.

This sparked my interest. I hate the front hex design on the b44.1. I'd rather have a clamping hex.

aeRayls 09-21-2012 01:32 PM

The front hex is 100% not 12mm. It's the same smaller hex like losi had forever.

UN4RACING 09-21-2012 02:22 PM

I checked and its 9.5mm....

UN4RACING 09-21-2012 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Asharus (Post 11237954)
This sparked my interest. I hate the front hex design on the b44.1. I'd rather have a clamping hex.

I agree, and I tried to buy a set but can't find a front set. Thus my reason for assuming it was 12.mm. I checked AE's site and they don't offer anything.

The roll pin is captured by the wheel though.

-WHEELMAN- 09-21-2012 11:35 PM

My baby is rebuilt and ready! I go a month or two without 4 wheel buggy and when she gets rebuilt its like the day before Christmas I get so excited! I love how you can have 200 batteries in a car and a few bucks later and a couple hours of work it's like she's new again!! Love it love it love it!!! Best 4 wheel EVER!!

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/h...R/0a8bda4d.jpg
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/h...R/48e02159.jpg

Fatal1ty 09-23-2012 04:34 AM

I'm a bit confused, after watching the hex adapters and hex wheels of different brands. Maybe there are some mistakes in the part lists...

Can somebody give me please the part numbers of the white associated hex wheels, with the hex adapters for the B44.1 and the B4.1, including the additional parts which I need to convert the B4.1 to hex?

thanks! ;)

vicdamone11 09-23-2012 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Fatal1ty (Post 11242947)
I'm a bit confused, after watching the hex adapters and hex wheels of different brands. Maybe there are some mistakes in the part lists...

Can somebody give me please the part numbers of the white associated hex wheels, with the hex adapters for the B44.1 and the B4.1, including the additional parts which I need to convert the B4.1 to hex?

thanks! ;)

http://www.teamassociated.com/news/l...12mm_Hex_Drive

Im in the middle of rebuilding my 44.1 Do i flip the steering rack or leave it alone?

rigor 09-23-2012 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by vicdamone11 (Post 11243804)
http://www.teamassociated.com/news/l...12mm_Hex_Drive

Im in the middle of rebuilding my 44.1 Do i flip the steering rack or leave it alone?

You want the aluminum hex adapters; not the link you provided.

These ones instead:

http://www.teamassociated.com/news/l..._Wheel_Hexes_/

Grouchman 09-24-2012 08:30 PM

I'll be adding this to my X-mas list

http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi....pl?pn=ASC9062

B44.2

toronto_rc 09-24-2012 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by Grouchman (Post 11250274)
I'll be adding this to my X-mas list

http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi....pl?pn=ASC9062

B44.2

Ditto! :D

rigor 09-24-2012 09:15 PM

RCTech Thread - NEW Team Associated B44.2 4WD Buggy

OptimumRC 09-24-2012 09:41 PM

This thread is obsolete....:lol:

racer1812 09-24-2012 10:08 PM

Not for me, I have a new .1 not done yet as well. BB's on order, new slipper fits the .1 (some have said they're running it, maybe the avid). I had a B44 and a Durango, not sure I want a longer 4wd. For 99% of us the .1 vs. .2 won't be a racing winning difference. IMO;)

SCTDan 09-25-2012 12:26 AM


Originally Posted by OptimumRC (Post 11250515)
This thread is obsolete....:lol:

Sorry but not by a long shot. The .2 is not a major rework.

Bburns 09-25-2012 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by racer1812 (Post 11250593)
Not for me, I have a new .1 not done yet as well. BB's on order, new slipper fits the .1 (some have said they're running it, maybe the avid). I had a B44 and a Durango, not sure I want a longer 4wd. For 99% of us the .1 vs. .2 won't be a racing winning difference. IMO;)

Totally agree, I just got mine. Never been raced yet. I will do the bb( have them ordered already), Shock towers and arms and whatever else swaps. I just had a brand new body paint by my buddy at paintmonster airbrushing. I'm not having another one painted. So until they make a new buggy all together. The b44.1 is good enough for me.

racer1812 09-26-2012 10:29 AM

how far back is it posted on how to put the VTS slipper in this thing?

I would go with the Avid but it's out of stock..

ALIEN3T 09-26-2012 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by OptimumRC (Post 11250515)
This thread is obsolete....:lol:

that be like saying the LOSI XX4 thread is obsolete, it still goes pretty strong. No reason this one should also.

OptimumRC 09-26-2012 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by SCTDan (Post 11250835)
Sorry but not by a long shot. The .2 is not a major rework.

It was a joke...jesus christ!

But I do know my B44.1 is as good as gone, and B44.2 is on its way!

SCTDan 09-27-2012 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by OptimumRC (Post 11258872)
It was a joke...jesus christ!

But I do know my B44.1 is as good as gone, and B44.2 is on its way!

The problem with sarcasm when used as a joke is that it requires too many nonverbs for it to be properly conveyed therefore rendering it ineffective as an effective means of conveying ones intent unless a large amount of waisted time is spent in an attempt by the writer to show the reader through words alone the intended emotion or you could just do this (just joking) or (insert sarcasm here) or better yet compose one of the longest run on sentences you have ever written.

Please insert a large amount of sarcasm here since the graveyard shift is very boring when nobody is breaking the law:lol:

I knew someone wouldn't understand my post and take it literal even after I wrote (insert sarcasm) and made fun of the fact the whole thing was a run on sentence. And I didn't ask anyone to do anything. Time for some people to lighten up

johnbugman 09-27-2012 06:26 PM

the garolite pads are the same if not better than the new vts slipper. so the only thing the new b44.2 has is the shocks over us. like the other guy said these tiny changes arent gonna make a damn bit of difference in a race between any of us.

UN4RACING 09-27-2012 08:53 PM

Farewell fellas, Just sold mine. (Nose in the air) I will be in the .2 thread. LOL

Arigato 09-27-2012 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by SCTDan (Post 11258954)
The problem with sarcasm when used as a joke is that it requires too many nonverbs for it to be properly conveyed therefore rendering it ineffective as an effective means of conveying ones intent unless a large amount of waisted time is spent in an attempt by the writer to show the reader through words alone the intended emotion or you could just do this (just joking) or (insert sarcasm here) or better yet compose one of the longest run on sentences you have ever written.

Please insert a large amount of sarcasm here since the graveyard shift is very boring when nobody is breaking the law:lol:

When you are asking others to do the right thing with their posts, please do the right thing with your own. Your spelling and the fact that you made one run-on sentence makes your statement just as bad if not worse.

MOmo 09-27-2012 11:39 PM

5 Attachment(s)
Just finished my car this last week and raced Tue night.

Shakedown run went okay, nothing broken. Need to dial in the car a bit more. Stock setup with an extra limiter in the front.

Got the updated software for my SP GT ESC, just need to play around with the settings. (Anyone have SP in a B44.1 who would care to share ESC settings?)

Its a Tight Clay High traction track. Switched from barcodes to Pink Tapers which are still kinda new. Racing against a couple strong drivers, and finished 3rd out of 3, but again, I haven't raced 4wd buggy for some time, and prior I have been racing 2wd B4 in Stock class.

The track where I race may be closing soon, so it could get retired for a little bit until other options can be found. For now...

B44.1
Futaba 3PKS
Peak 8.5 motor
SpeedPassion GT 2.0 ESC
Airtronics Servo
No-name Saddle pack



MOmo

johnbugman 09-28-2012 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by MOmo (Post 11263002)
Just finished my car this last week and raced Tue night.

Shakedown run went okay, nothing broken. Need to dial in the car a bit more. Stock setup with an extra limiter in the front.

Got the updated software for my SP GT ESC, just need to play around with the settings. (Anyone have SP in a B44.1 who would care to share ESC settings?)

Its a Tight Clay High traction track. Switched from barcodes to Pink Tapers which are still kinda new. Racing against a couple strong drivers, and finished 3rd out of 3, but again, I haven't raced 4wd buggy for some time, and prior I have been racing 2wd B4 in Stock class.

The track where I race may be closing soon, so it could get retired for a little bit until other options can be found. For now...

B44.1
Futaba 3PKS
Peak 8.5 motor
SpeedPassion GT 2.0 ESC
Airtronics Servo
No-name Saddle pack



MOmo



Looks really good. Something to be proud of.

Wease 09-28-2012 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Bburns (Post 11250840)
Totally agree, I just got mine. Never been raced yet. I will do the bb( have them ordered already), Shock towers and arms and whatever else swaps. I just had a brand new body paint by my buddy at paintmonster airbrushing. I'm not having another one painted. So until they make a new buggy all together. The b44.1 is good enough for me.

I think I'm only going to add the big bores to my 44.1 as well. Do you need the new towers to run the big bores, or will they work on the 44.1 towers?

. . . Matt

johnbugman 09-28-2012 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by Wease (Post 11265845)
I think I'm only going to add the big bores to my 44.1 as well. Do you need the new towers to run the big bores, or will they work on the 44.1 towers?

. . . Matt

:)

I'm running stock shocks with kyosho springs and have never had a $100 dollar extra problem plus new shock towers to validate new struts and everything else that needs to be purchased. People are always looking to buy a better game. This is not a reflection of you I'm just stating the facts.

Bburns 09-28-2012 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Wease (Post 11265845)
I think I'm only going to add the big bores to my 44.1 as well. Do you need the new towers to run the big bores, or will they work on the 44.1 towers?

. . . Matt

You don't need the new towers if you don't want them. The bb shock kit comes with spacers to mount them.

MOmo 09-28-2012 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by johnbugman (Post 11265716)
Looks really good. Something to be proud of.

Thanks. I like how it turned out too.



Originally Posted by Wease (Post 11265845)
I think I'm only going to add the big bores to my 44.1 as well. Do you need the new towers to run the big bores, or will they work on the 44.1 towers?


Originally Posted by johnbugman (Post 11265910)
:)

I'm running stock shocks with kyosho springs and have never had a $100 dollar extra problem plus new shock towers to validate new struts and everything else that needs to be purchased. People are always looking to buy a better game. This is not a reflection of you I'm just stating the facts.


I spoke to my friend at AE, who had a hand in the design, and he told me that the tower is a tad more aggressive in design as well as the addition of a 3rd hole. The arms have been beefed up. Not necessarily a must, but could be worth a look. As for adjusting for BB, as stated, those running the other BB springs (avid, losi, or Kyo) have just spaced them accordingly.


I found the parts list for the new 44.2 and did the math. Most everything is the same other than the BB, towers, chassis, slipper, upper decks, rear CVA, and the battery tray/straps. When I totaled everything I would need, it came in Under $150 (W/O the BB factored in). I got my car for WAAAAAAY below the Tower price (even below dealer cost) and figured if the conversion came in less than the going rate for the new B44.2 kit, then i might just convert my existing car. Tower lists the car at $370. I figure if i can get everything for around $150, I think I'm doing good,


MOmo

ALIEN3T 09-28-2012 10:54 PM

I got closet to 300 for all the parts, Slipper, slipper shaft, New body all the graphite, and with shocks. Looking at 300 to convert a 44.1 to a 44.2. Shock towers front and rear are thicker. Who is your bud at AE. KNow a few peeps there also.

josh short 09-30-2012 03:22 PM

I just bought a used b44.1 I'm going thru the diffs is everyone shimming it the same way the manual says to or is there a different way I should shim the diff ?

rigor 09-30-2012 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by josh short (Post 11271615)
I just bought a used b44.1 I'm going thru the diffs is everyone shimming it the same way the manual says to or is there a different way I should shim the diff ?

Ignore the manual and use the B44.2 manual, as they finally corrected the shimming section. 6 on the gear side, 3 on the other. There should be ZERO side to side play once placed in the transmission casing. If it feels slightly tight, don't worry, it'll loosen up within a couple runs.

http://www.teamassociated.com/manuals/B44.2/

josh short 09-30-2012 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by rigor (Post 11271643)
Ignore the manual and use the B44.2 manual, as they finally corrected the shimming section. 6 on the gear side, 3 on the other. There should be ZERO side to side play once placed in the transmission casing. If it feels slightly tight, don't worry, it'll loosen up within a couple runs.

http://www.teamassociated.com/manuals/B44.2/

Ok thank. U

bergie33 10-01-2012 07:02 AM

B44.2 battery straps
 
If I want the quick release battery straps from the B44.2 in my B44.1, can I just get the straps and hardware (ASC9906) or do I need the cradles too?

adamym 10-01-2012 07:51 AM

Has anyone run the avid triad slipper as well as the vst slipper for the 4x4 sc10? Are they worth it? I read that the garolite pads are pretty legit as well. What are the differences in between the three different setups?

TJMac 10-01-2012 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by bergie33 (Post 11273972)
If I want the quick release battery straps from the B44.2 in my B44.1, can I just get the straps and hardware (ASC9906) or do I need the cradles too?

I think you need the cradle as well. I want to do the same thing, the thumb nuts are PITA.


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