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bergie33 07-19-2012 08:35 AM

Losi 22 shocks
 

Originally Posted by Potoczak (Post 10990177)
Has anyone tried installing the Losi 22 shockS on the 44.1?

Yep, several people are running them. I just procured myself some without robbing my 22. I will be trying them soon.

tq23 07-19-2012 10:30 AM

just wanna ask all of you here..wat shock lengths are you guys running?front and rear..

The8ight 07-21-2012 11:21 AM

I run a b44.1 with a lrp 6.5 and it gets smoking hot like burnin eyes hot. I heard the lrP are suppose to run hot but not 220 hot? I went down on the pinion and up on sour and temps got even hotter. Could there be something in the drivetrain cause in this heat? If so what could it be? I run 17/84 gearing

fastchvy 07-21-2012 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by The8ight (Post 11000627)
I run a b44.1 with a lrp 6.5 and it gets smoking hot like burnin eyes hot. I heard the lrP are suppose to run hot but not 220 hot? I went down on the pinion and up on sour and temps got even hotter. Could there be something in the drivetrain cause in this heat? If so what could it be? I run 17/84 gearing

17/81

The8ight 07-21-2012 12:44 PM

?

crashnburn 07-21-2012 12:47 PM

He is suggesting you use 17/81 gearing to help solve your problem

The8ight 07-21-2012 12:53 PM

I thought the higher spur lower temps?

20 SMOKE 07-21-2012 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by The8ight (Post 11000861)
I thought the higher spur lower temps?

it will but you may be to under geared,most run 84/81 17-19 with a 6.5

toronto_rc 07-21-2012 01:19 PM

You can try cutting ventilation holes in your body so there's air flow.
Both esc and motor are covered under the body which can really heat things up in there if there are no holes. That's how it was for me at least.

Also check the drivetrain to see that nothing's binding.

Lastly, tighten up your slipper and see if that helps.
If your slipper is too loose, then you're applying throttle that's not actually being applied to the ground, mashing the throttle more than you really should.
Also was an issue for me as a cause for heat.

The8ight 07-21-2012 01:33 PM

Okay I have a 19t i can throw In There and a 81 spur. I think it could be about airflow because my body has no holes except for in the rear. Could it be my diff being to tight? Or needing a rebuild?

fastchvy 07-21-2012 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by The8ight (Post 11000967)
Okay I have a 19t i can throw In There and a 81 spur. I think it could be about airflow because my body has no holes except for in the rear. Could it be my diff being to tight? Or needing a rebuild?

if your slipper is to tight and your running a 84 spur gear your going to melt down your car( your putting a ton of load on your motor ans esc on the bottom end), run 17-18/81 and set your slipper so it slips for about 1-2 feet....i always loosen my slipper up what to loose and work my way in...those are 2 major problems you have...over geared and to tight on the slipper...the only thing i have seen run hot is a novak havak pro with a fan....POS

The8ight 07-21-2012 01:56 PM

How do you set your slipper? I had a 81 spur in there but changed to 84 because I thought that would bring the temps down and right now my slipper is tightened all the way.

fastchvy 07-21-2012 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by The8ight (Post 11001027)
How do you set your slipper? I had a 81 spur in there but changed to 84 because I thought that would bring the temps down and right now my slipper is tightened all the way.

stick a allen in the blue slipper nutt and roll your car forward or backwards tilll you feel your slipper loosen up..then from a dead stop punch it and it should slip a little right off the bat...what esc and motor your running...are you running a fan on the esc?

The8ight 07-21-2012 02:06 PM

Lrp tc spec and lrp x12 6.5 and yes I have a fan

fastchvy 07-21-2012 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by The8ight (Post 11001048)
Lrp tc spec and lrp x12 6.5 and yes I have a fan

i ran the exact same set up...loosen the slipper an run 18/81 and you will be good.......do you have timing in the motor end bell or in the esc?

The8ight 07-21-2012 02:15 PM

Okay will do, thanks.

The8ight 07-21-2012 02:19 PM

Can I just keep the gearing I have now 17/84 and loosen the slipper?

fastchvy 07-21-2012 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by The8ight (Post 11001074)
Can I just keep the gearing I have now 17/84 and loosen the slipper?

its alot of gear, thats 80 percent of the problem

zipperfoot 07-24-2012 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by The8ight (Post 11001074)
Can I just keep the gearing I have now 17/84 and loosen the slipper?

What is the reason for running that gearing? Seems a little off. The slipper is designed to save your diff, not compensate for the wrong gearing. Tightening down your slipper all the way and running 17/84, id be curious to see what temps you are running. Did someone bring the marshmellows?

zipperfoot 07-24-2012 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by The8ight (Post 11001027)
How do you set your slipper? I had a 81 spur in there but changed to 84 because I thought that would bring the temps down and right now my slipper is tightened all the way.

Read the manual. Tighten it so the shaft sticks out 10mm. I find that to be an almost perfect starting point.

rigor 07-24-2012 08:36 PM

Yeah you don't want your slipper tightened *all* the way down; then it won't slip at all, and defeats the whole purpose. Like the above user said, right around 10mm as the manual states is a good place to start. When set right, you should hear the slipper make a high pitched slip/squeal sound for a few feet (like 1 yard) after hard take off from a stand still.

The8ight 07-24-2012 08:39 PM

I change the gearing 17/81 and drove it with my slipper loose a bit then something in the rear diff messed up and my car wouldn't move anywhere. So I gotta check that out maybe the diff balls busted. I lossene it just a bit and it slipped really hard, so tightened backed upa bit and then the diff busted. So I ordered some
Balls and are waiting on them now

Matt Trimmings 07-24-2012 08:51 PM

If anybody is looking for a sweet deal on a barely ran FT B44.1 just let me know...

zipperfoot 07-25-2012 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by The8ight (Post 11014144)
I change the gearing 17/81 and drove it with my slipper loose a bit then something in the rear diff messed up and my car wouldn't move anywhere. So I gotta check that out maybe the diff balls busted. I lossene it just a bit and it slipped really hard, so tightened backed upa bit and then the diff busted. So I ordered some
Balls and are waiting on them now

Just replacing the balls is not going to fix the problem. Sounds like you fried your diff with the slipper cranked down. You are going to need the thrust and diff washers., diff and thrust balls, and you say the diff busted? Sounds like the shaft or the nut will need replacing as well.

The8ight 07-25-2012 08:31 AM

Well haven't checked the rear diff yet but I have check tw front and it wasn't the front sO I'm pretty sure it's rear, I just haven't had time I will try tO check it out tonight

bergie33 07-25-2012 03:07 PM

Those of you using Losi BB shocks, what springs are you running? I run on an indoor medium/high bite indoor wet clay track. It seems like running just the BB springs most are going with red/white or red/yellow. Would the same hold true with the Losi shocks in there too?

20 SMOKE 07-25-2012 03:19 PM

i use blue/yellow

zipperfoot 07-25-2012 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by bergie33 (Post 11017106)
Those of you using Losi BB shocks, what springs are you running? I run on an indoor medium/high bite indoor wet clay track. It seems like running just the BB springs most are going with red/white or red/yellow. Would the same hold true with the Losi shocks in there too?

Noooo, too soft. I made that mistake, running red, and then orange and white, was horrible.

Blue front, yellow rear worked great for me on the same type of track. i ran 35 wt losi oil w/#1 piston in front, and 32.5 wt losi oil w/#2 piston in the rear. Car was dialed, jumped perfect. The bb springs absobed some of the impact on landings, much more controllable.

The8ight 07-25-2012 10:16 PM

I took the rear apart and didn't see any strip gears or anything but there were only 5 thrust balls so maybe that was tw problem.... What could it be in the diff makeing a loud clicking noise and it would not move anywhere I mean it moves but it was like the slipper was real loose. Does associated just sell a whole diff?

bergie33 07-26-2012 12:36 AM


Originally Posted by zipperfoot (Post 11018480)
Noooo, too soft. I made that mistake, running red, and then orange and white, was horrible.

Blue front, yellow rear worked great for me on the same type of track. i ran 35 wt losi oil w/#1 piston in front, and 32.5 wt losi oil w/#2 piston in the rear. Car was dialed, jumped perfect. The bb springs absobed some of the impact on landings, much more controllable.

OK, is that with just the Losi springs, or the entire Losi BB shock setup? I hope I was clear, that I want to find out what springs people are running with the BB shocks.

D3mOnIcRc8e 07-26-2012 12:49 AM

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http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...909-951-a.html

20 SMOKE 07-26-2012 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by The8ight (Post 11018564)
I took the rear apart and didn't see any strip gears or anything but there were only 5 thrust balls so maybe that was tw problem.... What could it be in the diff makeing a loud clicking noise and it would not move anywhere I mean it moves but it was like the slipper was real loose. Does associated just sell a whole diff?

look at the gears there may be something in one of them,start putting it back together one diff at a time and then spin them slowly to find it

adir 07-26-2012 06:30 AM

any one have a new info about the ae bb shock ?
i see them all over the pro's cars, Does anyone know when it's released date ?

zipperfoot 07-26-2012 03:42 PM

:confused:

Originally Posted by bergie33 (Post 11018824)
OK, is that with just the Losi springs, or the entire Losi BB shock setup? I hope I was clear, that I want to find out what springs people are running with the BB shocks.

My mistake. I was referring to the bb springs with the v2's. I still think red and white would be too soft with the Losi bb shocks on a 44. The b44 is noticably heavier than the 22. I am lifting them both as we speak. 44 is heavier. I ran red and white in my 22 with a shorty pack. Border line too soft even for the 22. Depending on the track of course.

gogi108 07-29-2012 11:44 PM

Ok got the bb springs on , feels much nicer on the bench . the buggy is new built and had its run in on the road and all seems well . what are peoples thoughts on the ballast ? Yes or no ? Will take it to the track in couple days for proper run . cheers

FACTORYBUTNOT 07-30-2012 12:40 AM

The big bore shock spring upgrade is a worthy investment...the car is more forgiving with them. I don't run the ballast...just a square or two of the AE 7gram weight between the saddles.

20 SMOKE 07-30-2012 04:01 AM

i use to run weight when the 44 came out,since coming back i haven't added any yet

gogi108 07-30-2012 04:43 AM

Cheers guys . i guess i Will try with and without and see what i like . I'll post my findings . cheers

adir 07-30-2012 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by adir (Post 11019301)
any one have a new info about the ae bb shock ?
i see them all over the pro's cars, Does anyone know when it's released date ?

? :confused:

20 SMOKE 07-30-2012 08:12 AM

there is nothing yet,most of the info was in the b4 thread


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