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20 SMOKE 07-08-2012 03:41 AM

ran mine last night,this is the first time in 4yrs in a 4wd,tq and win dam i have missed this thing.

10.5 motor will be around a 23-81,like said above a 6.5 is around a 18ish.

jay n,what are you trying to do

jay m 07-09-2012 01:38 AM


Originally Posted by 20 SMOKE (Post 10948821)
ran mine last night,this is the first time in 4yrs in a 4wd,tq and win dam i have missed this thing.

10.5 motor will be around a 23-81,like said above a 6.5 is around a 18ish.

jay n,what are you trying to do

just want to see if i can get the 10.5 to keep up with some of the guys that are using 8.5. most of my racing has been on road and not sure if my esc settings will be any good off road may produce higher motor temps. and not sure the car can handle a 4.5 got no motors in between atm but im sure the 10.5 with some boost can keep up.

crashnburn 07-09-2012 03:34 AM

I have a LRP 8.5 in very good condition that I would be willing to let go for a decent price. If you are interested, just send me a PM.

20 SMOKE 07-09-2012 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by jay m (Post 10952093)
just want to see if i can get the 10.5 to keep up with some of the guys that are using 8.5. most of my racing has been on road and not sure if my esc settings will be any good off road may produce higher motor temps. and not sure the car can handle a 4.5 got no motors in between atm but im sure the 10.5 with some boost can keep up.

what esc and size of the track

jay m 07-09-2012 04:58 AM

esc, hw v2.1 120 amp
track, medium technical loose 40 meter straight
thanks.

Mini8 Menace 07-09-2012 08:34 PM

Get a 6.5
 

Originally Posted by jay m (Post 10952093)
just want to see if i can get the 10.5 to keep up with some of the guys that are using 8.5. most of my racing has been on road and not sure if my esc settings will be any good off road may produce higher motor temps. and not sure the car can handle a 4.5 got no motors in between atm but im sure the 10.5 with some boost can keep up.

Get a 6.5 trust me just grab the controller and coolest crowd you'll love it you can always dial it down and get the LRP tc esc I was in the same boat you were in and they told me to go to a 6.5 I was kind of hesitant at first but I went with it anyway and trust me it was the best decision for the car I currently run on eight scale track with 18/81 gearing but when I run on a 10 scale track I just dial it down a bit and it's ready to go full throttle and everything

SAMCRO 07-09-2012 09:03 PM

Hey guys, I am running my first race with the b44.1 this weekend and it happens to be a bigger event. I am only used to driving a b4.1. How do i need to change my driving with the b44.1? More or less braking? Also, I should probably go conservative on my setup. Any tips?

Rhett McNair 07-10-2012 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by SAMCRO (Post 10955830)
Hey guys, I am running my first race with the b44.1 this weekend and it happens to be a bigger event. I am only used to driving a b4.1. How do i need to change my driving with the b44.1? More or less braking? Also, I should probably go conservative on my setup. Any tips?

Stay in the throttle over jumps and bumps or the car nose dives! Pick one of the set ups on rc10.com that is similar to your track and you should be very close other than shock oil.

Jack Smash 07-10-2012 04:38 PM

I've got a couple Bfast Diff Kits in the for sale section if anybody is interested

jmc5313 07-10-2012 06:15 PM

Im considering buying a b44.1.... i have a spare 5.5 540 sonic...has anyone ran this motor? Anyone looking to get rid of one?

UN4RACING 07-10-2012 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by jmc5313 (Post 10959306)
Im considering buying a b44.1.... i have a spare 5.5 540 sonic...has anyone ran this motor? Anyone looking to get rid of one?

I have ran one. 16,17/81 on our track. It will work the slipper. So either crank it down or keep it serviced. Ran it for a couple of weeks and then the diff went weak and failed. Costed me a podium in a local trophy race the night it went out.
I'm sold on the Sonic 6.5... But the 5.5 is still my runner up choice. Ran it with the stock spec. Smooth as silk.

jmc5313 07-10-2012 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by UN4RACING (Post 10959552)
I have ran one. 16,17/81 on our track. It will work the slipper. So either crank it down or keep it serviced. Ran it for a couple of weeks and then the diff went weak and failed. Costed me a podium in a local trophy race the night it went out.
I'm sold on the Sonic 6.5... But the 5.5 is still my runner up choice. Ran it with the stock spec. Smooth as silk.

What diff do u run ball or gear?...is it in any way similar to drive as the sc10 4wd?..ive got a ft so i already have saddles...and that sonic was WAY TOO MUCH for my 2wd sc10!!...

jay m 07-10-2012 09:19 PM

Will a 87 tooth spur fit the b44.1

aeRayls 07-10-2012 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by jay m (Post 10960029)
Will a 87 tooth spur fit the b44.1

If I remember right, it will not but the 84 will.


Can I ask what you're tryingvto achieve with the 87? Running a 3.5? Lol

jay m 07-11-2012 02:53 AM


Originally Posted by aeRayls (Post 10960159)
If I remember right, it will not but the 84 will.


Can I ask what you're tryingvto achieve with the 87? Running a 3.5? Lol

need new spur and not sure what my LHS will have dont want to get something that wont fit cheers

79kmc 07-11-2012 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by jmc5313 (Post 10959850)
What diff do u run ball or gear?...is it in any way similar to drive as the sc10 4wd?..ive got a ft so i already have saddles...and that sonic was WAY TOO MUCH for my 2wd sc10!!...

They only come with a ball diff, not to sure if you can get a gear diff for them

UN4RACING 07-11-2012 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by jmc5313 (Post 10959850)
What diff do u run ball or gear?...is it in any way similar to drive as the sc10 4wd?..ive got a ft so i already have saddles...and that sonic was WAY TOO MUCH for my 2wd sc10!!...

Ball diffs are better IMO. And AE hasn't released any gear diffs. The B44.1 is nothing like a SC10 4x4. They are clumsy compared to a B44. I would call a B44 a Ninja and an SC a Boxer. Big difference.

I am looking forward to winter just so I can run a B44.1 again. Its my favorite Rc racing.

UN4RACING 07-11-2012 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by 79kmc (Post 10961076)
They only come with a ball diff, not to sure if you can get a gear diff for them

Some are making them out of Durango diffs and I think the caster or C car might be a close chance at fitting one?

Asharus 07-11-2012 06:07 PM

I miss mine too. Lookin forward to the winter as well. Just soldered up a new speedo to it the other day.

http://instagram.com/p/M9jILrP60t/

UN4RACING 07-11-2012 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Asharus (Post 10963525)
I miss mine too. Lookin forward to the winter as well. Just soldered up a new speedo to it the other day.

http://instagram.com/p/M9jILrP60t/

Looking pretty good. I will start building all new in a month or so. I hate the winter but I love the 4x4 class.

79kmc 07-12-2012 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by UN4RACING (Post 10963914)
Looking pretty good. I will start building all new in a month or so. I hate the winter but I love the 4x4 class.

Don't use guys race in winter over there, here in australia we race all year round

20 SMOKE 07-12-2012 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by 79kmc (Post 10967230)
Don't use guys race in winter over there, here in australia we race all year round

this is why i love Fl,race 52 weeks a year only to have some rain outs

tmo420 07-12-2012 05:51 PM

We race all year in Missouri. We just move indoors in the winter. And we put the nitro on the self.

UN4RACING 07-12-2012 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by 79kmc (Post 10967230)
Don't use guys race in winter over there, here in australia we race all year round

Summer time everyone goes out side to race. But when the season gets to cold, indoors kicks in and then its 44 time... Oh yeah.

Asharus 07-13-2012 06:24 AM

Yep, in the northeast, summer brings out the nitro fun, then when it gets cold, everyone settles back into their indoor tracks.

symmetricon 07-16-2012 12:44 PM

Since the bb shocks seem to be a popular topic and I know someone asked about it befor, here are pics of my b44.1 with dex 210 shocks on it. the front has the 23mm stroke shocks with 1.2m x6 hole w/35wt and the rear has 31mm stroke 1.3mm x6 hole w/30wt oil in it. I had to limit the fron uptravel by about 3mm and the rea about 6mm, so if this is something you are considering doing, bye the 23mm for the front and the 29mm for the rear.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/u...716_142203.jpg
http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/u...716_142234.jpg
http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/u...716_142246.jpg
http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/u...716_142314.jpg
The suspension feels so much more plush and soft, yet it takes about twice the distance dropped to bottom out as the v2 shocks did on it. I plan on hitting the track up sometime this week to see how it feels.

tomdav 07-16-2012 12:52 PM

Looks nice Symmetricon, I bet folks could pick up those shocks from the guys converting the V3 410's back to little bores like the factory guys are doing.


The best mod for me is going bb springs and adding the Ghea pistons. Night and day difference between stock piston and springs. So smooth.

symmetricon 07-18-2012 01:30 PM

Well, I just got back from the track after trying out the durango shocks and I am sold, it handed better in every way, and I was ably to run faster thn my SCTE by .5sec on a nasty, rough and loose/sandy 1/10 track.

rickybobbyxxx 07-18-2012 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by symmetricon (Post 10989430)
Well, I just got back from the track after trying out the durango shocks and I am sold, it handed better in every way, and I was ably to run faster thn my SCTE by .5sec on a nasty, rough and loose/sandy 1/10 track.

Hey sym, have u tried 2 stage pistons on your 44 yet?? I run them with the v2 shocks with bb kyosho springs yellow fr/ white rear 30/25 and they work great on big outdoor 1/8 scale tracks, and honestly if your only .5 sec faster than your scte, your 44 has alot more left in it,as theres not a sc truck on our track that can even come close to me

symmetricon 07-18-2012 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by rickybobbyxxx (Post 10990088)
Hey sym, have u tried 2 stage pistons on your 44 yet?? I run them with the v2 shocks with bb kyosho springs yellow fr/ white rear 30/25 and they work great on big outdoor 1/8 scale tracks, and honestly if your only .5 sec faster than your scte, your 44 has alot more left in it,as theres not a sc truck on our track that can even come close to me

I have not, i have been trying to figure out which direction to go with the suspension. I have the spring right, durango BB, but it seems like the buggy doesnt like a rough track too much, and it also seems to chassis slap fairily easy. my dex 210 is so much more stable and smooth around the track. Also, my testing was done when the track was completly dry and loose, im talking like driving in a sand box. when it is wet, the 4x4 buggies are blazing, but when dry the lighter vehicles are not so quick. Oddly enough, my fastest lap times have been with me 2wd dex 210 when the track is whet and prepted.

Potoczak 07-18-2012 05:08 PM

Has anyone tried installing the Losi 22 shockS on the 44.1?

20 SMOKE 07-18-2012 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by symmetricon (Post 10980459)
Since the bb shocks seem to be a popular topic and I know someone asked about it befor, here are pics of my b44.1 with dex 210 shocks on it. the front has the 23mm stroke shocks with 1.2m x6 hole w/35wt and the rear has 31mm stroke 1.3mm x6 hole w/30wt oil in it. I had to limit the fron uptravel by about 3mm and the rea about 6mm, so if this is something you are considering doing, bye the 23mm for the front and the 29mm for the rear.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/u...716_142203.jpg
http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/u...716_142234.jpg
http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/u...716_142246.jpg
http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/u...716_142314.jpg
The suspension feels so much more plush and soft, yet it takes about twice the distance dropped to bottom out as the v2 shocks did on it. I plan on hitting the track up sometime this week to see how it feels.

i see one problem with this setup

symmetricon 07-18-2012 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by 20 SMOKE (Post 10990290)
i see one problem with this setup

Whats that?

fastchvy 07-18-2012 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by 20 SMOKE (Post 10990290)
i see one problem with this setup

Lmao.....you got some eyes man!

fastchvy 07-18-2012 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by symmetricon (Post 10990418)
Whats that?

Your batteries!

JEFFs SC10 07-18-2012 06:35 PM

did you guys see that Avid is making an alum chassis?

My buggy has big bore springs, there Losi's and I like it. Might try the Avid springs next.

20 SMOKE 07-18-2012 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by fastchvy (Post 10990487)
Your batteries!

:D:D:lol::lol:

Jmuck69 07-18-2012 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 10990545)
did you guys see that Avid is making an alum chassis?

My buggy has big bore springs, there Losi's and I like it. Might try the Avid springs next.

It's in prototype stage and undecided if it will be produced.

gogi108 07-19-2012 04:30 AM

just finished my b44.1 build , it went together nice , although the springs rub the shock body on the rear which is causing me to cringe , got collars ect on order for bb spring conversion . i see some are using losi 3 hole pistons also which i have complete set of , what combo's are people using ? probably wont run it for a couple more weeks but cant wait . cheers

20 SMOKE 07-19-2012 05:24 AM

you have to play with the three hole piston,i ran them in my sc10 but wen't back to the 2 hole piston,i like it better


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