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JEFFs SC10 06-29-2012 09:38 AM

Kevin which ones are working and in.what conditions?

rigor 06-30-2012 01:08 PM

Got some runs in after picking up the Avid spring sets. I've only tried purple front / white rear per a recommendation from a racer, but my initial impressions were good. The car seemed more nimble, tons of traction, and felt more point and shoot like. This was with the stock kit piston set up, 35 front 30 rear AE oil. Looking forward to trying out some different colors of the Avid springs to see if I find something I prefer or works even better for me.

JEFFs SC10 06-30-2012 02:23 PM

I LOVE MY B44.1!!!! Took it out today on low to med grip track , took a little to figure it out but I LOVE it.

symmetricon 06-30-2012 04:53 PM

I just bought a b44.1 of the fleebay for a killer deal, cant wait to run it.
time to read all 161 pages.

JEFFs SC10 06-30-2012 04:59 PM

hahah I dont have that much time on my hands. I havent gone over the setup on mine and it is dialed. I dont want to change a thing except maybe add a bit more timing for more speed and Id like to try out the avids to see if they are even better the losi bb's I have now.

F18engineguy 06-30-2012 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by blown sv (Post 10909392)
Yes kyosho , apparently they are the beez knees only problem is is they are pricy , unless you buy them directly from Japan and they are about $9 a pair.

I run the K-springs with Losi pistons. Shock feel awesome.

jay m 06-30-2012 10:14 PM

i was wondering if someone can give me a starting setup b44.1 hw120 esc 10.5 sp motor medium size track some of the other guys are runing 8.5 turns but i know the 10.5 can match the speed with out being so aggressive down low need pinion size help and speedy program setting to start from cheers just getting back into racing from a short break

tmo420 07-02-2012 03:58 PM

Im going to get my daughter the b44.1 and was wondering if there were any upgrades i should get right off the bat. She is pretty new to the hobby with only about 6 months of light raving under her belt. I need this thing to be very durable so im not too worried about weight at the moment, plus i think i can compensate for the weight with a better motor. I am going to be putting a tekin setup in it with savox servos. Ant input would be great, Thanks

vw addict 07-02-2012 04:14 PM

How old is your daughter? I would never let my 8 yo son drive mine, that's why he has a sct.

rigor 07-02-2012 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by tmo420 (Post 10929860)
Im going to get my daughter the b44.1 and was wondering if there were any upgrades i should get right off the bat. She is pretty new to the hobby with only about 6 months of light raving under her belt. I need this thing to be very durable so im not too worried about weight at the moment, plus i think i can compensate for the weight with a better motor. I am going to be putting a tekin setup in it with savox servos. Ant input would be great, Thanks

I gotta be honest; sounds like this isn't the car you want. This car is fast (obviously depending upon motor choice) and somewhat fragile, with a bigger learning curve to drive it well.

tmo420 07-02-2012 04:16 PM

She is 11. She has been driving the t4 but wanted to get her something better. It's not like I'm letting her take my losi lol

rigor 07-02-2012 04:22 PM

I suggest a modified B4.1 over B44.1 .

More maintenance, more complex to drive well, you're going to break more parts learning to drive it, and a lot of places don't carry many parts for it unless It's real popular in your area (seems like It's not at most).

This has been my experience with the car the past few months. A mod 2wd is going to be a pretty big upgrade from a stock truck.

vw addict 07-02-2012 04:26 PM

What's wrong with the T4? Is she racing or just getting laps in? I would suggest getting her a used B4.1 and letting her hone her skills with a 13.5. If she can drive that she will be able to drive anything. :nod:

tmo420 07-02-2012 04:27 PM

I have has the b4 and thought it drove like a sack of potatoes. Tmy lhs carries plenty of parts and the t4 is far from stock. I do understand what you are saying though. Maybe I'm pushing for the b44 so I can drive it too....lol

tmo420 07-02-2012 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by vw addict (Post 10929966)
What's wrong with the T4? Is she racing or just getting laps in? I would suggest getting her a used B4.1 and letting her hone her skills with a 13.5. If she can drive that she will be able to drive anything. :nod:

Nothing is wrong with the t4. She doesn't like the way it drives. She says its too twitchy.

rigor 07-02-2012 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by tmo420 (Post 10929981)
Nothing is wrong with the t4. She doesn't like the way it drives. She says its too twitchy.

Too twitchy !? She'll definitely not like the B44 then man. The thing is incredibly nimble and twitchy to drive well. This is exactly why I stated I don't think this is the vehicle you're looking for (for her). Maybe for you though :)

vw addict 07-02-2012 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by tmo420 (Post 10929981)
She doesn't like the way it drives. She says its too twitchy.

then tune it for her driving style. Bagging it and going to the B44.1 is going to open a pandoras box.....

tomdav 07-02-2012 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by tmo420 (Post 10929934)
She is 11. She has been driving the t4 but wanted to get her something better. It's not like I'm letting her take my losi lol

Just put a 13.5 in it. With a mild motor it should be real easy to drive. Once the laptimes are consistant try adding some boost or a hotter motor. The only upgrade would be some weight for the back. Just buy plenty of spare front arms, shock shafts, shock ends and maybe some caps.

Larren 07-02-2012 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by rigor (Post 10929951)
I suggest a modified B4.1 over B44.1 .

Agreed.

A video link of my 8 year old son with only about a month experience driving his B4.1 rtr.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sxuI1faqfM

tmo420 07-02-2012 09:31 PM

Thanks for all you're insight guys but she just droped a bomb on me. She said she really doesn't want to race anymore. She wants to dance. What a bummer

FACTORYBUTNOT 07-02-2012 11:39 PM

She can go dance...you can go race...and both of you can be happy

racene1 07-02-2012 11:57 PM

Hey guys, i have been running my 44.1 with an 8.5 recently and its good, but i have a spare tekin pro4 3300kv that didn't work in my SCTE and was wondering if anyone out there has an EDUCATED opinion on weather or not it would be a good motor for this car? Im not worried about getting the correct rotor shaft size. Im talking about getting the motor to work well?
thanks, and DAMN THIS THING IS THE MOST FUN IVE HAD IN R/C IN A LONG TIME:p
JT

93 stang 07-03-2012 04:27 PM

What would a good gearing to start with got 8.5 and tekin rs pro

toronto_rc 07-03-2012 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by racene1 (Post 10931458)
Hey guys, i have been running my 44.1 with an 8.5 recently and its good, but i have a spare tekin pro4 3300kv that didn't work in my SCTE and was wondering if anyone out there has an EDUCATED opinion on weather or not it would be a good motor for this car? Im not worried about getting the correct rotor shaft size. Im talking about getting the motor to work well?
thanks, and DAMN THIS THING IS THE MOST FUN IVE HAD IN R/C IN A LONG TIME:p
JT

if you're having so much fun with an 8.5, why would you consider changing it to a 3300kv motor? i think you answered your own question. :eek:

JEFFs SC10 07-03-2012 04:37 PM

A 3300 kv Pro 4 is designed for 3s. It'll be slowwwwww.

I run a 6.5 Trinity D3 and I'm adding timing to make it faster lol.

tomdav 07-03-2012 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by 93 stang (Post 10933897)
What would a good gearing to start with got 8.5 and tekin rs pro

22 or 23/81

93 stang 07-03-2012 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by tomdav (Post 10933985)
22 or 23/81

Thanks

symmetricon 07-03-2012 06:14 PM

hey guys,

i finally got my used b44.1 and the kit looks brand new other than grass clippings throught the car. Now here is the question, it came with the stock v2 shocks in the front and had rear losi bb pinks on them/bb mod. it is way underdampened. I drined the oil and put some 35wt losi in it and then put some durango dark blue springs from my dex210 3.5 spring rate compared t the ae silver 3.2, I think it should be close enough?

Now the rear came with proline powerstroke front slash shocks, they fit up perfectly and have the right amount of travel, but i cant figure out what springs are on it, if they are the stock springs i cant seem to find info on the shocks stock spring and piston, do you guys happen to know?What is the #1 stock piston hole size in mm?

Edit: so the powerstroke stock front spring rate are/is 2.8(p) / 6.2(s), im not sure how this equates to a standard spring??

TJMac 07-03-2012 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by 93 stang (Post 10933897)
What would a good gearing to start with got 8.5 and tekin rs pro

20/81 or 21/81 is a good place to start.

JEFFs SC10 07-04-2012 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by tmo420 (Post 10931139)
Thanks for all you're insight guys but she just droped a bomb on me. She said she really doesn't want to race anymore. She wants to dance. What a bummer

LOL sounds like a girl LOL. Are you selling it? My 7 yr old wants a buggy now after seeing mine. haha

tmo420 07-04-2012 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 10935586)
LOL sounds like a girl LOL. Are you selling it? My 7 yr old wants a buggy now after seeing mine. haha

I could sell it. What are you offering. I can either sell it as a roller or with the castle motor and esc in it. With or without the lipo. Just let me know. It is a t4. Not a b4.

JEFFs SC10 07-05-2012 09:57 AM

Oh I didn't know it was t4, sorry.

symmetricon 07-05-2012 03:42 PM

Ok, so no response to my last post, so let me ask this. Should the front be noticeably less dmpened than the rear of the buggy, since I have no idea what pistons are in the front stock v2 shocks and the rear powerstroke shocks? I have 35wt losi in the front and it feels real soft while the rear has 250cst oil i it and it feels much more dampened. What do you guys think or know ????????

rigor 07-05-2012 05:28 PM

No the front shocks should feel about the same as the rear and pretty balanced overall (front & back). You could always just check if those ProLine rear shocks would accept the standard AE pistons in them and purchase them. You really really want to know the answers to any suspension setup questions regarding your car, so you can further dial it in more as needed.

I hope your car turns out to be ok; I'd be weary that you didn't get the AE v2 rear shocks and that there was grass clippings throughout the car :confused:

symmetricon 07-05-2012 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by rigor (Post 10941025)
No the front shocks should feel about the same as the rear and pretty balanced overall (front & back). You could always just check if those ProLine rear shocks would accept the standard AE pistons in them and purchase them. You really really want to know the answers to any suspension setup questions regarding your car, so you can further dial it in more as needed.

I hope your car turns out to be ok; I'd be weary that you didn't get the AE v2 rear shocks and that there was grass clippings throughout the car :confused:

Thanks for the reply,

the proline shocks are a larger diamiter bore than the stockers.... I guess if anyting I can drill them out since I have a an assortment of metric drill bits. as for the car, I did a rebuild to check everything out, the diffs and the ring nd pinion gears looked to be in perfect shape, and the balls and ring were in almost in new shape. It doesnt even have a single scratch on the shock towers, the chassis protector, body, wing or even the bumper, heck the motor doesnt even have a scratch.

Ok, so how about this, how far of a drop (bench test) should it take to bottom out?

rigor 07-05-2012 07:38 PM

Drop from about 6" and the front should be at 21mm, and the rear 20mm.

symmetricon 07-06-2012 05:17 AM

Thanks again, I think I have the shocks pretty close, but I will see soon when it takes its maiden voyage this afternoon.

I aslo wanted to comment the quality of the b44.1, it is top notch, the plastic, screws and carbon fibre seem to be made in a different place than some of the other associated rc's that i have owned, and not that they have been bad either, but this is one of the nicest, well thought out, easy to work on, no nonsense no compramise to racing rc's that i have everput my hands on. Bravo AE

jay m 07-07-2012 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by jay m (Post 10923479)
i was wondering if someone can give me a starting setup b44.1 hw120 esc 10.5 sp motor medium size track some of the other guys are runing 8.5 turns but i know the 10.5 can match the speed with out being so aggressive down low need pinion size help and speedy program setting to start from cheers just getting back into racing from a short break

can any1 point me in the right direction

rigor 07-08-2012 12:06 AM

I can tell you that I run a 6.5 in my B44.1, and I run the 81 spur with a 19 pinion. You could probably start at a 21 pinion and go from there. Be sure to check with a temp gun after running for 5 minutes.

jay m 07-08-2012 01:09 AM

whats the biggest spur gear to fit b44.1 cheers


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