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ben73 10-11-2010 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by TraxxasPeter (Post 8055072)
this buggy looks great. are the shock towers better? i heared on the old one they broke real easily.

the front is now 3.5mm up from 3mm

Dont know about the old ones breaking easily though. the ones on my car are over 2 years old... besides a front arm snapping now and then when you clip something at high speed it does not break anything normal racing

Jmuck69 10-11-2010 08:00 AM

The common parts I heard that broke where the front shock shafts and the front shock tower. This was probably from running into walls rather than parts failure.

Jmuck69 10-11-2010 08:04 AM

Does anyone from AE know when the assembly manual will be available?

mjk1210 10-11-2010 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Jmuck69 (Post 8055169)
The common parts I heard that broke where the front shock shafts and the front shock tower. This was probably from running into walls rather than parts failure.

Shock shafts can break rather easily but mostly because they are mounted on the front of the arm. so when you bump another car hard enough it may hit the shock shaft and not the bumper. I stopped hitting stuff and the problem went away.:nod: In 3 years I only had one front shock tower crack and one front top plate start to break. So I would say it's a pretty durable car to begin with. All the mods will just make it even better

Jmuck69 10-11-2010 05:01 PM

Amain has this listed on their website at $369.99.

brickshouse 10-11-2010 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Jmuck69 (Post 8047435)
More than likely, it will have the same diff as the FTSC10 & the B4.1/T4.1. Which is nice for spare parts and ease of use. This car is going in my stable.

lol, wow:weird:

Ostach24 10-11-2010 06:42 PM

Wow 370 i would like to see it a bit less, but i guess you get what you pay for.

kman16jr 10-11-2010 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Ostach24 (Post 8057728)
Wow 370 i would like to see it a bit less, but i guess you get what you pay for.

Yeah it seems a little high but you get thicker shocktowers,new body,new tires,and the new ae v2 shocks so technically it's not that bad but it should be 350$And then let the original b44 price drop.:nod:

Ostach24 10-11-2010 06:52 PM

Yeah id like to see about 325 to keep it under the durango. This might make some go that way.

aradaiel 10-11-2010 09:20 PM

Good. Someone buy my Durango so I can get one of these.

D-Rek07 10-11-2010 09:24 PM

So everyone says they will get one but how many are ACTUALLY gonna get one?

aradaiel 10-11-2010 09:26 PM

I work at a hobby shop seasonally, so I'll wait untill then to pick up one... or until someone buys my durango.

Most likely after thanksgiving.

I just picked up my FTSC10 and my wife wasn't so happy. :lol:

j65mustang 10-11-2010 09:30 PM

it is a little expensive, pre ordered mine and losipartshouse/associatedpartshouse for $339. cant wait.

racer1812 10-11-2010 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by j65mustang (Post 8058677)
it is a little expensive, pre ordered mine and losipartshouse/associatedpartshouse for $339. cant wait.

30 bucks is 30 bucks, while all the updates are nice I just don't see it as a $370 buggy

Ostach24 10-12-2010 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by aradaiel (Post 8058663)
I work at a hobby shop seasonally, so I'll wait untill then to pick up one... or until someone buys my durango.

Most likely after thanksgiving.

I just picked up my FTSC10 and my wife wasn't so happy. :lol:

Will purchase on payday.

Ostach24 10-12-2010 12:03 AM

I have a b44 i wont get another with a few updates, but i will get the body.

i1justin 10-12-2010 12:48 PM

It seems that people seem to thing that the shocks and front tower are the only new things?
Are people not seeing the revised front top deck, the new slipper goodies, the cam motor mount stock, a revised chassis, new aluminum hub carriers, lipo battery holder and carbon braces, and a sway bar setup stock! and if anything like the other FT.1 kits the overall manufacturing of the kit will be better.
I own a B44 and will have no issue upgrading to this kit, selling a roller for 150 means really i am only spending 200 for a brand new 4WD kit... sounds like a deal to me

aeRayls 10-12-2010 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by i1justin (Post 8061297)
It seems that people seem to thing that the shocks and front tower are the only new things?
Are people not seeing the revised front top deck, the new slipper goodies, the cam motor mount stock, a revised chassis, new aluminum hub carriers, lipo battery holder and carbon braces, and a sway bar setup stock! and if anything like the other FT.1 kits the overall manufacturing of the kit will be better.
I own a B44 and will have no issue upgrading to this kit, selling a roller for 150 means really i am only spending 200 for a brand new 4WD kit... sounds like a deal to me

All good points I think alot have missed.

The revised chassis is also longer along with the front top deck and center cva. The car is 7mm longer. The chassis is also narrower. Along with a revised internal gear ratio of 2.6 instad of 2.5, which means new gears.

Chris Jarosz 10-12-2010 04:32 PM

The transmission ratio is still 2.5, not 2.6. The 2.6 is a typo. The B44.1 still uses the same diff gears, 3914.

As for the wheelbase, it is shorter because the kit setup has the hubs in the forward position. The max wheelbase would be 280mm, the same as the B44.

The length of the B44.1 vs. the B44 is the same. The reason the measurement is 7mm off is the B44.1 was measured from the very tip of the front to the back of the wing.

The newer chassis is the same length as the older one as well as the same width. The servo has been moved more towards the center line as well as there are no more cutouts for motor and batteries.

Hope this clarifies everything.

Ostach24 10-12-2010 05:37 PM

Wow so basically same buggy thats got upgraded lipo straps holders motor mount and rear hub... Glad and not glad to hear this. Will get the new body, glad same parts list, i just. Expected more changed for the price increase. But hey best out there why change it.

ben73 10-12-2010 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by Ostach24 (Post 8062454)
Wow so basically same buggy thats got upgraded lipo straps holders motor mount and rear hub... Glad and not glad to hear this. Will get the new body, glad same parts list, i just. Expected more changed for the price increase. But hey best out there why change it.

new shocks as well and a new thicker front tower.

The best part is the chassis with no holes in it. I reckon after 4 months of racing I will have saved enough by not replacing the JC chassis tape which always got holes punched through the battery slots...

And the motors will not get marked or dented now with no cut out.

refinement is the mark of a winning car.

kman16jr 10-12-2010 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by ben73 (Post 8062635)
new shocks as well and a new thicker front tower.

The best part is the chassis with no holes in it. I reckon after 4 months of racing I will have saved enough by not replacing the JC chassis tape which always got holes punched through the battery slots...

And the motors will not get marked or dented now with no cut out.

refinement is the mark of a winning car.

I have never had an issue with mine because i ran the chassis tape and ran my undertray at all times so the chassis doesn't get scratched up or my motor getting nicked or dented.;)

Ostach24 10-12-2010 06:38 PM

Yeah I run the chassis protector so I didnt have that problem either, and yeah I like the idea of just updating, but At the same time I almost wish it were different bc I hate how kyosho updates kits so frequently. rb5 has been around for how long? how about a new model. I go back and forth on this haha I wish they still had t3 parts lol

aradaiel 10-12-2010 07:17 PM

The new shocks build so much better and so much easier. The new slipper is a huge improvement as well. I want one now. :cry:

kman16jr 10-12-2010 07:24 PM

I'm just gonna upgrade mine with the new slipper and maybe the new shocks.If not the shocks,than the new chassis and will definately get this sexy new body for sure.We will have a durando killer:D

Thomas P 10-12-2010 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by rcdude19641 (Post 8062203)
The transmission ratio is still 2.5, not 2.6. The 2.6 is a typo. The B44.1 still uses the same diff gears, 3914.

As for the wheelbase, it is shorter because the kit setup has the hubs in the forward position. The max wheelbase would be 280mm, the same as the B44.

The length of the B44.1 vs. the B44 is the same. The reason the measurement is 7mm off is the B44.1 was measured from the very tip of the front to the back of the wing.

The newer chassis is the same length as the older one as well as the same width. The servo has been moved more towards the center line as well as there are no more cutouts for motor and batteries.

Hope this clarifies everything.

Thank you for this information. Then i can spend my money on a new motormount insted of a new car

/Thomas

Ostach24 10-13-2010 12:09 AM

hahaha yeah many will just go with the updates, rather than a new car.

kyle3333 10-13-2010 08:36 AM

The B44.1 is 2.6:1 instead of 2.5:1. What are the pros and cons of this change?

mof 10-13-2010 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by kyle3333 (Post 8065481)
The B44.1 is 2.6:1 instead of 2.5:1. What are the pros and cons of this change?

As stated above, it appears that there is a typo and it really is just the same.

kyle3333 10-13-2010 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by mof (Post 8065575)
As stated above, it appears that there is a typo and it really is just the same.

Ha! thanks.

i1justin 10-13-2010 09:33 AM

New B44 Chassis- ~$60
Front V2 Shocks 43
Rear V2 Shocks 43
V2 Slipper setup ~13-15
Front Top Deck 21
FT Alum Hubs 31
Front Tower 18
Punisher body ~ 18
Cam motor Mount 43


Seems like thats 290 dollars in upgrades right there, so for 50-70 bucks and get a new kit, I really dont see what everyones issue is, seems like a legit .1 car to me. They are not calling this the B45 or anything people, the above doesnt include the carbon lipo brace or carbon battery straps either, so the difference between this kit and the original is near 350 alone and that doesnt even include 80% of the car!

TomTomTuning 10-13-2010 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by kman16jr (Post 8063014)
I'm just gonna upgrade mine with the new slipper and maybe the new shocks.If not the shocks,than the new chassis and will definately get this sexy new body for sure.We will have a durando killer:D

Yea, I had posted my B44 for sale but I think I will keep it and just upgrade a few parts from the B44.1 onto it.

Thomas P 10-13-2010 11:53 AM

Hmm, wounder how much flex they reduced with zero Nimh slots,motor hole on this chassi? or is it the same?, time will tell?

Only need in upgrade if you ask me, is Shocks, rest is bling, but for a easy adjustment, i can reach for the motormount :sneaky:

I would like diff topdecks...that is a lot more interesting, when will they give us some diff toppdecks for a lot more flex tune

RCHR 10-13-2010 12:24 PM

I have a chassis without battery slots and the difference is not really noticable. Once you put on the lipo tray and the aluminum center brace, the chassis is pretty stiff.

If you need more flex in your chassis, back off the screws in your transmission cases and other plastic parts on the chassis on the top and the bottom plates a 1/4 turn from fully tight, back off the center brace screws 1/8th from fully tight, you'lll need to use locktight on them and let it cure overnight before driving the car.

aradaiel 10-13-2010 09:59 PM

I put one on order today. :smile:

velotek1 10-13-2010 10:50 PM

woho thicker fromt shock towers! That'll be good for my rookie driving!

Jmuck69 10-15-2010 12:25 PM

Conversion
 
AE has posted the parts required for the B44 to B44.1 conversion.

http://www.teamassociated.com/pdf/ca...conversion.pdf

TomTomTuning 10-15-2010 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Jmuck69 (Post 8076260)
AE has posted the parts required for the B44 to B44.1 conversion.

http://www.teamassociated.com/pdf/ca...conversion.pdf

Very nice!

bajabro 10-18-2010 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by Jmuck69 (Post 8076260)
AE has posted the parts required for the B44 to B44.1 conversion.

http://www.teamassociated.com/pdf/ca...conversion.pdf

Thank you, little more then the tech told me on the phone, but at least my 3 month old car can be updated already.

Waldo183 10-23-2010 10:58 PM

Rear toe
 
The new rear hubs for the B44.1 are set a zero rear toe? And the B44 has the hubs are -3 toed-in right? Am I wrong or did AE change to reaer hubs out for the B44.1?


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