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Old 10-26-2013, 03:23 PM   #12706
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Well I'm upgrading to the rpm long shank rod ends. Always had great luck with them on my other cars.

I heard of people using the TC5 ball studs as the stock ones are a bit too large to fit in the rpm rod ends..

Will these work?

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...Associated-TC5
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...g-8mm-Ballstud
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Old 10-26-2013, 05:01 PM   #12707
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Does anyone know the details on what's new for the v2 buggy coming out.
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Well I'm upgrading to the rpm long shank rod ends. Always had great luck with them on my other cars.

I heard of people using the TC5 ball studs as the stock ones are a bit too large to fit in the rpm rod ends..

Will these work?

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...Associated-TC5
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...g-8mm-Ballstud
TC5 studs have a metric thread but standard size ball stud,, You could go for the losi 22 ends.. most say they are better than rpm really many say they are the best out right now.

I'm using almost all stock ends and studs.. no real issues so no point changing. Just need to make sure to install by the manual and make sure they are free on the ball end if not you may need to polish the ball ends so there is no issue.
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Old 10-27-2013, 05:01 AM   #12709
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Well I'm upgrading to the rpm long shank rod ends. Always had great luck with them on my other cars.

I heard of people using the TC5 ball studs as the stock ones are a bit too large to fit in the rpm rod ends..

Will these work?

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...Associated-TC5
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...g-8mm-Ballstud
In short, yes they will work.

However, if you use the long shanks with the standard turnbuckle for the rear camber link you will not have the full range of adjustment, the angled ball cup is significantly longer. We are using the angled ballcup from jconcepts with great result and the long shanks for the rest.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:54 AM   #12710
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Ran MM4 with a +10 chassis last night and really liked it. The car handled better, jumped better, and was less "on edge" than the RM 3 I was running.

Looks like MM is taking over
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:20 AM   #12711
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Ran MM4 with a +10 chassis last night and really liked it. The car handled better, jumped better, and was less "on edge" than the RM 3 I was running.

Looks like MM is taking over
Only on super high bite, still faster with RM on med and low track conditions.. at least w/ the current buggy's. I don't see MM's taking over in those conditions, but who knows.. with the huge rear chassis weights now available and shorty lipo's it does open up the possibilities some. We have a med bite clay track and the fastest on this track is RM.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:49 AM   #12712
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I am looking for a good low-med grip indoor mm4 setup. if anyone can help that would be great!
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:28 PM   #12713
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In short, yes they will work.

However, if you use the long shanks with the standard turnbuckle for the rear camber link you will not have the full range of adjustment, the angled ball cup is significantly longer. We are using the angled ballcup from jconcepts with great result and the long shanks for the rest.

Thanks for pointing that out. Never would have thought of it..

What Jconcepts angled ballcup are you using?

http://www.jconcepts.net/store/index...products_id=23

http://www.jconcepts.net/store/index...roducts_id=708

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Old 10-28-2013, 02:02 PM   #12714
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I'm using ball studs like this with a logner neck. Like the ones from TC5.
Should I change the amount of shims under the studs from stock?
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:03 PM   #12715
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Only on super high bite, still faster with RM on med and low track conditions.. at least w/ the current buggy's. I don't see MM's taking over in those conditions, but who knows.. with the huge rear chassis weights now available and shorty lipo's it does open up the possibilities some. We have a med bite clay track and the fastest on this track is RM.
It is definitely no secret that I am a big fan of mid motor. I was long before everyone else jumped on the fad after the worlds. That being said, I don't think rear motor is ever going away and I think there is still a use for it. Although I have been setting up my car in mid motor and will keep it this way for high bite surfaces, I will also make a set in rear motor (and mid motor) for lower bite surfaces and will then just directly compare them. Regardless of personal bias on paper, after I've done all I can to each setup, I'll look at which is fastest and will go with it. It doesn't matter if it's RM or MM. I can definitively say that with the new layout on the dirt track near me, since it is mostly tight 180's with outside berms, leading into large jumps with short run up areas, a smooth sweeping approach to cornering isn't going to get you anywhere. You need to hit those berms, slide the rear end around, and get moving as fast as possible. I'm not saying that MM can't work here but I certainly see no advantage to it here. The previous layout was a different story.

My gripe with MM is the 4 gear setup. It just has far too much weight transfer during throttle inputs and I have a far harder time driving it than I do MM3 or RM3. If I can't get MM3 to work, I'll go straight to RM3 but I'll never again run MM4. I didn't like the way my Cr2 or X6's drove. They were both MM4.
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:14 PM   #12716
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It is definitely no secret that I am a big fan of mid motor. I was long before everyone else jumped on the fad after the worlds. That being said, I don't think rear motor is ever going away and I think there is still a use for it. Although I have been setting up my car in mid motor and will keep it this way for high bite surfaces, I will also make a set in rear motor (and mid motor) for lower bite surfaces and will then just directly compare them. Regardless of personal bias on paper, after I've done all I can to each setup, I'll look at which is fastest and will go with it. It doesn't matter if it's RM or MM. I can definitively say that with the new layout on the dirt track near me, since it is mostly tight 180's with outside berms, leading into large jumps with short run up areas, a smooth sweeping approach to cornering isn't going to get you anywhere. You need to hit those berms, slide the rear end around, and get moving as fast as possible. I'm not saying that MM can't work here but I certainly see no advantage to it here. The previous layout was a different story.

My gripe with MM is the 4 gear setup. It just has far too much weight transfer during throttle inputs and I have a far harder time driving it than I do MM3 or RM3. If I can't get MM3 to work, I'll go straight to RM3 but I'll never again run MM4. I didn't like the way my Cr2 or X6's drove. They were both MM4.
Have to agree with you here Fred. I tried MM4 last year on our track, and could never get the car to transfer weight at the right time. On power push, and off power rear end was extremely loose. I struggled with it for a month or so, and could never get it right. I didnt try MM3, as my racing was interrupted shortly after. I will say a young gun at our track is running MM RB6 in blinky, and is running faster laps than the mod buggies, and the mod guys are no slouches..
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:49 PM   #12717
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In MM4, the more powerful motor you are running, the worse the throttle induced weight shift will become. It might be drivable in 17.5 blinky but not at all in mod.
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In MM4, the more powerful motor you are running, the worse the throttle induced weight shift will become. It might be drivable in 17.5 blinky but not at all in mod.
Wow, exactly what I found, blinky was manageable but a 10.5 was a handful..
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:27 PM   #12719
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In MM4, the more powerful motor you are running, the worse the throttle induced weight shift will become. It might be drivable in 17.5 blinky but not at all in mod.
It's funny I went through a similar process with two dex210's again before points started and spent a lot of time dialing in a MM trying both mm3 and mm4 and ended up with mm4 working better with my 8.5 on our track. Indoor clay/dirt track med traction, nothing really 'high speed'. I kept this setup and just grabbed another rear end so I can simply swap the rm and mm back and forth with a handful of screws as needed. I kept the RM3 as it clearly performed better for me partially because it was more predictable; but it had more 'rip' ,if you know what I mean, when I needed it for our layout. I think over the next few generations we will see far better MM layouts that will work on most conditions.
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Thanks for pointing that out. Never would have thought of it..

What Jconcepts angled ballcup are you using?

http://www.jconcepts.net/store/index...products_id=23

http://www.jconcepts.net/store/index...roducts_id=708

Thanks.
Glad to be of assistance

We're using the ones behind the first link, it is the older version, haven't tried it myself but I read a post somewhere that the new version was not such a good fit.
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