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Old 10-20-2011, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by t0p_sh0tta View Post
Are these shocks the same as the 410's? If so, I could never get them smooth.

They'd be smooth as glass until 75-85% compression, and SQQQQUUUIIIISSSSSHh.
I have no problems, I bought a pair of big bores off a guy and that's how they were. I also felt a few other locally. You have to take your time when building them.

Note: Lube the ORings
1.) Make sure your shaft moves freely withing body.
2.) Fill body half way with fluid. And move the shaft up and down to remove bubbles. Let sit a few minutes.
3.) finish filling body with shock oil with slight dome.
4.) Install bleed screw on cap, Fill cap 1/3 full of fluid.
5.) Installed Cap quickly and tight. DO NOT COMPRESS!!!
6.) unscrew bleed screw while tilted up.
7.) Slowly move the shaft up and you should see burps. Move the shaft so there is only 2mm os so of the shaft showing.
8.) Re- Install bleed screw. DONE!!

You will have fluid come out of the bleed screw so have a rag handy.
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Originally Posted by Jonny5 View Post
Hmmmm. Explanation there? I figured less holes would create more pack along with more roll resistance since the same amount of oil has to travel through less holes.
No, fewer holes with the same oil just creates more damping (thicker all the time)... If you are looking for heavier damping, you could also just use a heavier shock oil...

Pack is the effect from the turbulence at the hole that is created when you try to move the oil through too quickly. The turbulence created at the hole will reduce the amount of oil that is allowed to pass through.

Lighter oil and a smaller hole will give you the same basic damping as heavier oil with lager holes when the piston is being moved slowly. But the setup with the lighter oil and smaller holes will give you more pack. This is because the larger hole won't create turbulence when the piston is moved quickly, so the resistance will be more uniform between moving the piston slowly, and quickly. A smaller hole will introduce more resistance, the faster the piston moves.
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Originally Posted by TAMAK View Post
I have no problems, I bought a pair of big bores off a guy and that's how they were. I also felt a few other locally. You have to take your time when building them.

Note: Lube the ORings
1.) Make sure your shaft moves freely withing body.
2.) Fill body half way with fluid. And move the shaft up and down to remove bubbles. Let sit a few minutes.
3.) finish filling body with shock oil with slight dome.
4.) Install bleed screw on cap, Fill cap 1/3 full of fluid.
5.) Installed Cap quickly and tight. DO NOT COMPRESS!!!
6.) unscrew bleed screw while tilted up.
7.) Slowly move the shaft up and you should see burps. Move the shaft so there is only 2mm os so of the shaft showing.
8.) Re- Install bleed screw. DONE!!

You will have fluid come out of the bleed screw so have a rag handy.
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Those are bladder shocks... 100% different.

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Anyone running the DEX210 in Stock? I'm considering getting one and didn't want to read through 57 pages to find out.

Also, What would I need to get along with the normal kit.

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Anyone running the DEX210 in Stock? I'm considering getting one and didn't want to read through 57 pages to find out.

Also, What would I need to get along with the normal kit.

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57 pages is a cake walk.
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So stoked my kit arrived today!!
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Originally Posted by bobsavenger View Post
Anyone running the DEX210 in Stock? I'm considering getting one and didn't want to read through 57 pages to find out.
Right now, I don't think it will work very well for stock, simply because right now all you get is an 87 tooth spur. In stock you would normally run something like 78 spur and 32 pinion for a FDR of 6.3.... to keep the same overall drive ratio in this car, you would be running something like 87 spur 36 pinion... which I doubt would even fit. Haven't tried it yet myself, but I doubt there is that much room in the in the car. There are aftermarket spurs you CAN get... but I haven't had any luck yet.

78/32 x 2.6 = 6.33 fdr
87/36 x 2.6 = 6.38 fdr

If you want to under gear the car and run in 17.5, that will of course work.. but wouldn't be ideal. I haven't yet figured out the largest pinion you can fit with the stock spur, but can later... and I can report back.
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Right now, I don't think it will work very well for stock, simply because right now all you get is an 87 tooth spur. In stock you would normally run something like 78 spur and 32 pinion for a FDR of 6.3.... to keep the same overall drive ratio in this car, you would be running something like 87 spur 36 pinion... which I doubt would even fit. Haven't tried it yet myself, but I doubt there is that much room in the in the car. There are aftermarket spurs you CAN get... but I haven't had any luck yet.

78/32 x 2.6 = 6.33 fdr
87/36 x 2.6 = 6.38 fdr

If you want to under gear the car and run in 17.5, that will of course work.. but wouldn't be ideal. I haven't yet figured out the largest pinion you can fit with the stock spur, but can later... and I can report back.
I'm going to test this spur gear out..

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-Spur-Gear-76T
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if you're in a pinch for a spur, take a body reamer to a B4 spur and carefully ream the hole out until it's the correct size. I just reamed out a 84 and 76 B4 spur and they work fine.
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Originally Posted by Jmuck69 View Post
I'm going to test this spur gear out..

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-Spur-Gear-76T
ahh. good idea. I sold a guy at my track my schumacher cougar a while ago, so maybe I can see if he has any extra spurs I can play with as well.
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ahh. good idea. I sold a guy at my track my schumacher cougar a while ago, so maybe I can see if he has any extra spurs I can play with as well.
The inner hole looks to be correct but needs to be verified. Let us know if this works. It's machined so that is a plus.
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Originally Posted by Jmuck69 View Post
I'm going to test this spur gear out..

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-Spur-Gear-76T
how much of a difference are these, the Durango spur, and the AE ones in terms of the inner hole?
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Originally Posted by rcman182006 View Post
how much of a difference are these, the Durango spur, and the AE ones in terms of the inner hole?
The inner hole of the AE is 3/16 and the Durango is 8mm (not 100% positive on this).
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