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killercripple 12-15-2009 12:34 AM

Mambe powered E-Warhead Build
 
Well after many years of having a virtually new Duratrax Warhead ( 3 Tanks ). Bought it a week after the first warheads came out.
I made up my mind to make it my first conversion

I've got a brand new Mamba Monster ESC+2650kV motor sitting on my work table and a TEKNO V3 motor mount.

I just need to fab it to a piece of 2" angel aluminum. Then attach it to the Warheads chassis.

I also ordered my first 2.4 Tx/Rx setup ( Spektrum DX3.0 & 3CH Rx )

Also got a forward only shaft for the transmission. That was " FUN ". Since i have NEVER done anything in a RC transmission.

The rest should be a walk in the park.

I'm going to run it all on a 5000mAh 3S1P 40C flightmax LiPo. This will be my first time running LiPo as well :D
I know i can run more cells on the mamba and i probably well. Just to do speed passes, But the guy helping me said the transmission cant handle much over 30kRPMs. So im going to just run on 3S when im bashing it and maybe go 4 or 5S. If i feal like risking my trany.

I need to solder some plugs to my ESC. witch should be fun, since I've soldered TWICE in my life lol
I am going deans, since it seems like everyone swears by them

Only thing now is the spur gear. i want to use the metal 49T 1 i bought, but i cant get the metal plates from the old 1 to go on the new 1. i'll post a pic to show what i mean ( last pic )

Here's a few pictures, So you guy can give me any pros & cons or Hints & tips. For a little fish jumping into a HUGE FING POND lol

here's the trans back together with the reverse gears out
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...1/PC130143.jpg

here the truck gutted, Sept for the steering & brake servos
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...1/PC130141.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...1/PC130142.jpg

Good old disc brakes
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...1/PC130144.jpg

I sure you all know what this is. MAMBA 2650kv & TEKNO V3 motor mount
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...1/PC130148.jpg

The heart & brain of the truck
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...PC130149-1.jpg

i need to get 1 of the 2 metal plates to go into the blue spur gear, But i dont know if i really need to reef on it, to get it to go in
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...1/PC130146.jpg

UK.hardcore 12-15-2009 01:13 AM

3S and 2650 might be not so good.

Be very carefull driving and temping it before you drive it hard.

trucks this caliber usually need 5S and ~1700Kv to be safe temp wise.

You might get away with it but if you can get a bigger slower motor do it.

killercripple 12-15-2009 02:06 AM


Originally Posted by UK.hardcore (Post 6721344)
3S and 2650 might be not so good.

Be very carefull driving and temping it before you drive it hard.

trucks this caliber usually need 5S and ~1700Kv to be safe temp wise.

You might get away with it but if you can get a bigger slower motor do it.

They guy that's helping me, runs a Feigao 540 6XL 2,871 RPM and running it on 3S with a single fan. witch i'll be doing to. and he has no heating problems.
Plus 1700Kv would be WAY to wheelie happy 4 me

I will VERY rarely be pushing it hard. I don't have the room for 1.
It might see full throttle 5% of the trucks life.
It's more of a mosher. since i live in the woods

killercripple 12-15-2009 02:08 AM

Here is a video of his truck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9EhZPBSfks

tom_chang79 12-15-2009 04:49 AM

This looks very interesting. I've always had a thing for Duratrax stuff. Converting a Warhead into Brushless is very tempting. That thing is like a humongous beast...

Keep us posted on your build...

slaytanic 12-15-2009 05:16 AM

Wow that brings back memories. Looks fun. Too bad the warhead was such a flaming peice of turd. It had alot of good ideas in it.

Justpassedu 12-15-2009 09:50 AM

Nice conversion man , how do you like the 2650kv motor and mamba monster so far?

killercripple 12-15-2009 02:55 PM

yea it is a turd lol they said the plasitic was " brake proof " What a joke. 3 tanks i broke both body mounts and a shock tower lol.

i cant say much about the motor since i have not run it. It looks sweet lol

I should be getting my angle aluminum tomorrow and fab it up also.
My batterys are at the post office as well. so thats good.

only thing else i need is my deans plugs. Then im ready to finish it

I'll post so more pics up once i move forward on it

Justpassedu 12-15-2009 03:46 PM

ok cool post up some results when your ready , i ahve that same motor and esc waiting to be dropped into my slash pe 4x4 when it arrives. The duratrax parts are all backed by the stress tech warranty for the first year . I have never found there parts (plastics) to hold up to abuse . I used to have a efw nitros and in one crash something would always break. I guess thats why they have the stress tech gaurantee to lure you in and you know most people arnt going to want to wait to send in for new parts ...

malik 12-15-2009 04:11 PM

Dude I highly suggest if you bought the MMM/2650 from Castle and you didnt use the motor yet ask them if you can swap the motor for the 2200 and get a 4 to 5S lipo. Thats what was made for big heavy trucks, it has the torque to move them. On 3S and it being short v=canned that 2650 isnt going to have any off the line power. Look what comes with the E-revo and Tork, MMM/2200. If you stick with it I hope it works but on paper it doesnt its a heat issue waiting to happen.

killercripple 12-15-2009 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by malik (Post 6724063)
Dude I highly suggest if you bought the MMM/2650 from Castle and you didnt use the motor yet ask them if you can swap the motor for the 2200 and get a 4 to 5S lipo. Thats what was made for big heavy trucks, it has the torque to move them. On 3S and it being short v=canned that 2650 isnt going to have any off the line power. Look what comes with the E-revo and Tork, MMM/2200. If you stick with it I hope it works but on paper it doesnt its a heat issue waiting to happen.

yea but they also do standing backflips and 60+MPH. I dont want that.
i only want 35-40mph and as little wheelies as posible. cooling isnt to much off a worry cause i wont be pushing it hard and running a fan. i just dont have the room.

Plus i dont think the truck it self well last long or i should say the drvetrain. once it craps out im going to get a slash roller off ebay

This thing is purely basher. so it well see 1/2-3/4 throttle most its life.

Justpassedu 12-15-2009 05:43 PM

check out the castle creations blower for that motor at $12.99 its def worth it and looks cool http://www.castlecreations.com/products/cc_blower.html ,,, i think you should be fine with that motor choice aslong as gear correctly , these motors can take a ton of abuse and are def hard to get hot . He should be fine , the 2200kv maybe may have been the better choice but that one is just as good . I have a 2650kv for my slash 4x4 since its light even though most will prob use the 2200kv , hopefully i get the car soon...

malik 12-15-2009 07:17 PM

Thats on 6S 4S would be perfect for that truck, 5S would be really fun and 6S would be um too much.

killercripple 12-16-2009 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Justpassedu (Post 6724498)
check out the castle creations blower for that motor at $12.99 its def worth it and looks cool http://www.castlecreations.com/products/cc_blower.html ,,, i think you should be fine with that motor choice aslong as gear correctly , these motors can take a ton of abuse and are def hard to get hot . He should be fine , the 2200kv maybe may have been the better choice but that one is just as good . I have a 2650kv for my slash 4x4 since its light even though most will prob use the 2200kv , hopefully i get the car soon...

that thing does look nice, but i dont think it would work with the tekno v3 motor mount

killercripple 12-30-2009 10:51 PM

Here's a few pics, not much.
think i'll start on the battery tray tomorrow, should be easy. Then look into some FLUX battery boxs so i can run two 2S

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...PC300142-1.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...1/PC300137.jpg


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