Slash, Sc10, Strike, Blitz the pros and cons of each
10-30-2009, 01:30 PM
#1
Slash, Sc10, Strike, Blitz the pros and cons of each
There are lots of choices out there and it hard for people to pick. For this thread anything slash will be 2wd only and each truck box tock.
10-30-2009, 01:35 PM
#2
If you truly keep it box stock I would say sc10. The blitz looks like a better chassis but the sc10 has more options for setting up the esc
oh I forgot about the stock sc10 tires, they suck hardcore. I guess all four have their weaknesses
oh I forgot about the stock sc10 tires, they suck hardcore. I guess all four have their weaknesses
Last edited by z50king; 10-30-2009 at 01:55 PM.
10-30-2009, 01:39 PM
#3
Tech Adept
I've been looking at racing the SCT Stock 17.5 ROAR Spec class. This should be open to the models that you mention. I have a Slash and decided to upgrade it to match the class. So I will start the Pros/Cons
Slash Pros:
Available parts
Decent cost
Tough design
Slash Cons:
Heavy
Older transmission Design
High CG
needs many upgrades to be competitive
I have been interested in the others too but decided to stick with my Slash
Slash Pros:
Available parts
Decent cost
Tough design
Slash Cons:
Heavy
Older transmission Design
High CG
needs many upgrades to be competitive
I have been interested in the others too but decided to stick with my Slash
10-30-2009, 01:41 PM
#4
Like what? They are the most competitive out of the box than any listed.
sc10 - stock motors wont hold up. Good Set up options. Seem fragile
Strike - great if you can get the rear end planted. Nice suspension.Seem fragile
Slash - Good to go. Just have Extra motor in the toolbox.
That's all I have tested
sc10 - stock motors wont hold up. Good Set up options. Seem fragile
Strike - great if you can get the rear end planted. Nice suspension.Seem fragile
Slash - Good to go. Just have Extra motor in the toolbox.
That's all I have tested
10-30-2009, 01:45 PM
#5
With the SC10 you have some of the worst stock tires ever put on a vehicle. The ESC has problems with overheating. It is very hard to drive out of the box.
With the Blitz, you have a poor speed control with no adjustments. The tires are fair. Not as difficult to drive as the SC10, but still not as good as the Slash, out of the box.
Have not owned a Strike, but I got to see one last Saturday. It didn't make it through a single heat without some sort of breakdown. I don't know exactly what was going on with it.
10-30-2009, 02:14 PM
#6
Tech Addict
Slash-Tank, easy to drive fast
Sc10-Fragile, can finish well, must have spares handy
Strike-Fragile, chassis break, dogbones bend
Blitz-Durable like the slash, easy to drive fast
The best 2 trucks are the slash and Blitz in my opinion.
But the SC10 looks the best, on the realistic side, just wish
they wouldnt break so easy.
Sc10-Fragile, can finish well, must have spares handy
Strike-Fragile, chassis break, dogbones bend
Blitz-Durable like the slash, easy to drive fast
The best 2 trucks are the slash and Blitz in my opinion.
But the SC10 looks the best, on the realistic side, just wish
they wouldnt break so easy.
10-30-2009, 02:21 PM
#7
For a box stock truck? The Slash is unbeatable. You don't have to change a thing. The ESC is very good and adjustable. The stock servo is good. The motor is just fine. The tires are very good. Not to mention the most durable 1/10 vehicle around. The radio is the weak point.
With the SC10 you have some of the worst stock tires ever put on a vehicle. The ESC has problems with overheating. It is very hard to drive out of the box.
With the Blitz, you have a poor speed control with no adjustments. The tires are fair. Not as difficult to drive as the SC10, but still not as good as the Slash, out of the box.
Have not owned a Strike, but I got to see one last Saturday. It didn't make it through a single heat without some sort of breakdown. I don't know exactly what was going on with it.
With the SC10 you have some of the worst stock tires ever put on a vehicle. The ESC has problems with overheating. It is very hard to drive out of the box.
With the Blitz, you have a poor speed control with no adjustments. The tires are fair. Not as difficult to drive as the SC10, but still not as good as the Slash, out of the box.
Have not owned a Strike, but I got to see one last Saturday. It didn't make it through a single heat without some sort of breakdown. I don't know exactly what was going on with it.
I would rank them
1. SC10
1. Blitz
3. Slash
4. Strike
While the "out of the box" set up isn't the best, w/ a few simple inexpensive tweaks, it is by far the best SC available. Pro: Best tranny/Slipper/Diff in the class, based on the Multiple World Champion B4/T4, most adjustable, only one available as a kit so you don't have to buy more RTR electronics, it has a low CG, good shocks. The SC10 Cons: Tires, early version rear wheels, and the stock A-Arms are fragile. IMO, the biggest mistake Associated made was not adopting the class standard 12mm hex for the SC10.
Blitz looks to be a real contender. Again don't own one, but from what I've seen and read, it's a winner. Pro: Basically a SC10 clone w/ a bit more beef. Con: Leaky Diff, servo saver adjustments RTR electronics.
The Slash is a tank. It's great for new drivers who may spend a lot of time on the lane dividers, in the wall, upside down, ect.... It's tires are the very good for the RTR class, it has the best RTR electronics, and it has great parts support . But the Slash too has it's issues. Th tranny/diff/slipper design is old, heavy, and large. The diff is open, the spurs are pretty poor. The shock caps have a tendency to blow off, the rear hubs are very fragile, the rear hinge pins are prone to back out and bend, the shock shafts bend easily, it's not very adjustable and the CG is the worst in the class.
The Strike? When I get it running again, I'll let you know. 2 packs and the idler gear was toast so I've been working on it ever since. Some of the guys that have been able to keep it together have been pretty quick w/ it.
Again, I am not a RTR fan, so my opinion is biased toward SCT Racing.
10-30-2009, 02:35 PM
#8
I own the SC10, Slash, Strike. Don't have a Blitz yet.
I would rank them
1. SC10
1. Blitz
3. Slash
4. Strike
While the "out of the box" set up isn't the best, w/ a few simple inexpensive tweaks, it is by far the best SC available. Pro: Best tranny/Slipper/Diff in the class, based on the Multiple World Champion B4/T4, most adjustable, only one available as a kit so you don't have to buy more RTR electronics, it has a low CG, good shocks. The SC10 Cons: Tires, early version rear wheels, and the stock A-Arms are fragile. IMO, the biggest mistake Associated made was not adopting the class standard 12mm hex for the SC10.
Blitz looks to be a real contender. Again don't own one, but from what I've seen and read, it's a winner. Pro: Basically a SC10 clone w/ a bit more beef. Con: Leaky Diff, servo saver adjustments RTR electronics.
The Slash is a tank. It's great for new drivers who may spend a lot of time on the lane dividers, in the wall, upside down, ect.... It's tires are the very good for the RTR class, it has the best RTR electronics, and it has great parts support . But the Slash too has it's issues. Th tranny/diff/slipper design is old, heavy, and large. The diff is open, the spurs are pretty poor. The shock caps have a tendency to blow off, the rear hubs are very fragile, the rear hinge pins are prone to back out and bend, the shock shafts bend easily, it's not very adjustable and the CG is the worst in the class.
The Strike? When I get it running again, I'll let you know. 2 packs and the idler gear was toast so I've been working on it ever since. Some of the guys that have been able to keep it together have been pretty quick w/ it.
Again, I am not a RTR fan, so my opinion is biased toward SCT Racing.
I would rank them
1. SC10
1. Blitz
3. Slash
4. Strike
While the "out of the box" set up isn't the best, w/ a few simple inexpensive tweaks, it is by far the best SC available. Pro: Best tranny/Slipper/Diff in the class, based on the Multiple World Champion B4/T4, most adjustable, only one available as a kit so you don't have to buy more RTR electronics, it has a low CG, good shocks. The SC10 Cons: Tires, early version rear wheels, and the stock A-Arms are fragile. IMO, the biggest mistake Associated made was not adopting the class standard 12mm hex for the SC10.
Blitz looks to be a real contender. Again don't own one, but from what I've seen and read, it's a winner. Pro: Basically a SC10 clone w/ a bit more beef. Con: Leaky Diff, servo saver adjustments RTR electronics.
The Slash is a tank. It's great for new drivers who may spend a lot of time on the lane dividers, in the wall, upside down, ect.... It's tires are the very good for the RTR class, it has the best RTR electronics, and it has great parts support . But the Slash too has it's issues. Th tranny/diff/slipper design is old, heavy, and large. The diff is open, the spurs are pretty poor. The shock caps have a tendency to blow off, the rear hubs are very fragile, the rear hinge pins are prone to back out and bend, the shock shafts bend easily, it's not very adjustable and the CG is the worst in the class.
The Strike? When I get it running again, I'll let you know. 2 packs and the idler gear was toast so I've been working on it ever since. Some of the guys that have been able to keep it together have been pretty quick w/ it.
Again, I am not a RTR fan, so my opinion is biased toward SCT Racing.
10-30-2009, 02:37 PM
#9
Pick what you like & want, They are like any 1:1 Vehicles & have their own different problems. Some of the problems are do to mass production of parts ESC's ect. & Going with the cheapest bidder. Some of your problems will occur from owner/operator error, I have 2 SC10's and other then traction issues I, Have not had a problem out of either. Unless you want to include the operator error equaling a snapped chassis. We will see about my back-ordered slash 4x4 when it arrives....Don't forget if your a basher certain trucks might not fit or be built for your criteria & vice-versa for the racer
10-30-2009, 02:45 PM
#10
I'm starting to find the Blitz as the better vehicle over the SC10. Though I have not had it long, just the few changes I made to have paid big dividends. I put in a old LRP 4.1 ESC, a different AM radio, and some used Slash tires and it made a big difference. I'm very impressed with the Blitz so far. The SC10 is a good truck, but it took me a few weeks and a ton of changes to get it "dialed".
10-30-2009, 02:58 PM
#11
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10-30-2009, 06:32 PM
#12
Tech Adept
I have seen Slash, SC10, and Strike locally so far. IF this discussion is limited to the Box Stock it may be Slash. The videos that I have seen shows that the Blitz probably has the right motor and chassis. I wasn't aware of the ESC issues. I was commenting above to a ROAR Stock like Spec.
I am considering a new chassis some day but for now I am working with my slash. If the SC10 had 12mm hexs I would really consider it. If I would change chassis I would get the Blitz. My tires, wheels, Motor/ESC and Shocks would migrate directly. I bet the body would work too.
I have not been impressed with the Strike. We have a few in the Open SCT class and the guys have had some issues setting them up. The high CG chassis is causing issues for them for sure. I don't see the cornering advantages that a mid motor should provide due to the high CG chassis. I would not buy a Strike.
The Kyosho looks like a SC10 copy to me.
I think that the Slash with the Xtreme RC Racing carbon chassis may be a strong contender in this class.
I am considering a new chassis some day but for now I am working with my slash. If the SC10 had 12mm hexs I would really consider it. If I would change chassis I would get the Blitz. My tires, wheels, Motor/ESC and Shocks would migrate directly. I bet the body would work too.
I have not been impressed with the Strike. We have a few in the Open SCT class and the guys have had some issues setting them up. The high CG chassis is causing issues for them for sure. I don't see the cornering advantages that a mid motor should provide due to the high CG chassis. I would not buy a Strike.
The Kyosho looks like a SC10 copy to me.
I think that the Slash with the Xtreme RC Racing carbon chassis may be a strong contender in this class.
10-30-2009, 07:18 PM
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Are track runs a Spec SCT class. Run them like they are out of the box except can run a different receiver and radio. Can changes parts that come with the kit like shock oil, camber and so on. Must run stock electronics and tires that come with the kit you run.
So far the Slash in box stock for while not near as adjustable kinda like a TC3 is but tons of setups work and it is very hard to get something wrong that the truck don't work. By far the best tires our of the box and the Slash easily has the most rear traction. Parts support is 2nd to non and can't be beat. Fastest at are track so far.
The Blitz is very adjustable and just a nice truck. Stock speedo has no reverse lockout which for me I just don't care for. Tires are not as good as the Slash but better than the SC10 or Strike. Parts support right now is low since it is new but will grow. Very nice overall truck for the price.
The SC10 is based off the T4 so its hard to beat but in stock form the tires are junk and easily the wordst of the 4 trucks. If you track requires the use of the stock tires you might be in trouble if your track is loose. I found the motor gets hot but is plenty fast. Not as adjustable as the Blitz but plenty of things to do to it anyways.
The Strike, what to say about it. I ran are shop one and it was ok on are track but has issues witht he tranmission idler gear and bad done bones at this time. Very noisey after a few runs. I do like the stock shocks and it is not as adjustable as the SC10 or Blitz but more that the Slash. Stock tires suck on anything other than medium to high bite. Similiar in looks to the Slash with the way they did the underside of the chassis.
I guess it depends on the type of racing your track offers. We run Spec class only so the Slash is on the top but if you run more of an open class then the SC10 and Blitz are nicer out of the box.
I run the Slash and will run one in mod sct as well. It just suits me best overall. They are all good kits with the Strike being the worst and has the most issues of them all so keep that in mind if you don't like to tinker around alot.
So far the Slash in box stock for while not near as adjustable kinda like a TC3 is but tons of setups work and it is very hard to get something wrong that the truck don't work. By far the best tires our of the box and the Slash easily has the most rear traction. Parts support is 2nd to non and can't be beat. Fastest at are track so far.
The Blitz is very adjustable and just a nice truck. Stock speedo has no reverse lockout which for me I just don't care for. Tires are not as good as the Slash but better than the SC10 or Strike. Parts support right now is low since it is new but will grow. Very nice overall truck for the price.
The SC10 is based off the T4 so its hard to beat but in stock form the tires are junk and easily the wordst of the 4 trucks. If you track requires the use of the stock tires you might be in trouble if your track is loose. I found the motor gets hot but is plenty fast. Not as adjustable as the Blitz but plenty of things to do to it anyways.
The Strike, what to say about it. I ran are shop one and it was ok on are track but has issues witht he tranmission idler gear and bad done bones at this time. Very noisey after a few runs. I do like the stock shocks and it is not as adjustable as the SC10 or Blitz but more that the Slash. Stock tires suck on anything other than medium to high bite. Similiar in looks to the Slash with the way they did the underside of the chassis.
I guess it depends on the type of racing your track offers. We run Spec class only so the Slash is on the top but if you run more of an open class then the SC10 and Blitz are nicer out of the box.
I run the Slash and will run one in mod sct as well. It just suits me best overall. They are all good kits with the Strike being the worst and has the most issues of them all so keep that in mind if you don't like to tinker around alot.
10-31-2009, 02:37 AM
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I fitted a castle creations 5700kv motor and esc, changed the diff oil to 7k and put the 2.4 radio gear into my hpi blitz and took it out for some fun today powering it with 2s 25c 5000 lipo packs and 88 spur / 20 pinion combo and found that the temps where good through 4 full packs on the track and bashing the truck.
Motor temps never went over 160f all day
Esc temps never went over 150f all day
Outside temp was 88f with high humidity
So i must say i was happy with the temps and power i was getting with the combo set up and power supply i was running today, the rest was stock out of the box.
Motor temps never went over 160f all day
Esc temps never went over 150f all day
Outside temp was 88f with high humidity
So i must say i was happy with the temps and power i was getting with the combo set up and power supply i was running today, the rest was stock out of the box.
