Why 2wd over 4wd?
06-23-2009, 05:27 PM
#1
Why 2wd over 4wd?
Hey guys. I'm just curious as to why some folks prefer 2wd over 4wd
I know it takes more skill and you have to be more carefull in the turns, but does the 4wd not offer better traction in every scenario?
I know it takes more skill and you have to be more carefull in the turns, but does the 4wd not offer better traction in every scenario?
06-23-2009, 05:32 PM
#2
Tech Initiate
4wd is more complex and takes more time to maintain. one gear box is problem enough 
-steve
-steve
06-23-2009, 05:41 PM
#4
2wd is almost never faster than 4wd.
06-23-2009, 05:46 PM
#5
I like how 2WD off road RC truck move and react better than 4WD. It lust seems more natural. In offroad, if there are generous berms on all the turns, the advantage of 4WD lessens, because the 2WD can rail berms as well as 4WD. IMO of course
Last edited by Poppa Wheelie; 06-23-2009 at 05:47 PM. Reason: rong speleng
06-23-2009, 05:46 PM
#6
Tech Master
It's just one of those things where 2wd has been around forever, and 4wd has gone in fits-and-starts.
A lot of the tracks are smooth well groomed tracks that allow 2wd to get plenty of traction, and as mentioned racing was fast and the cars were fairly simple.
Now with near unlimited power in motors and batteries 4wd is making a big come back. With 4wd 10 years ago you needed to cut the comm on your brushed motor pretty much every race, and you had to gear for your battery to not dump before 5 minutes.
I persnally love 4wd, as I race on really rutted bumpy and loamy tracks made for 1/8 Nitro's. It's just too hard to hook up with a 2wd in those conditions.
A lot of the tracks are smooth well groomed tracks that allow 2wd to get plenty of traction, and as mentioned racing was fast and the cars were fairly simple.
Now with near unlimited power in motors and batteries 4wd is making a big come back. With 4wd 10 years ago you needed to cut the comm on your brushed motor pretty much every race, and you had to gear for your battery to not dump before 5 minutes.
I persnally love 4wd, as I race on really rutted bumpy and loamy tracks made for 1/8 Nitro's. It's just too hard to hook up with a 2wd in those conditions.
06-23-2009, 05:48 PM
#7
Yes they offer more traction but that doesn't mean everything. Some like the challenge of 2wd and find it more fun. Not to mention 2wd is less expensive and weighs less. Also 4wd isn't very popular in some areas.
For example, would you rather through a Miata around a track or an Audi A4? Though the Audi is AWD deosn't mean I would rather drive one. The Miata is a much more fun car to drive not to mention it weighs about half of the Audi. Now that's not exactly a fair comparison but you see what I'm saying.
For example, would you rather through a Miata around a track or an Audi A4? Though the Audi is AWD deosn't mean I would rather drive one. The Miata is a much more fun car to drive not to mention it weighs about half of the Audi. Now that's not exactly a fair comparison but you see what I'm saying.
06-23-2009, 06:08 PM
#8
Both are fun when working well.
2wd is great when there is grip available. In Australia, where many of our tracks are very slippery / dusty, they can be very difficult to drive unless you have new tyres and your setup is perfect. This turns a lot of people off.
4wd is just plain fast at all times, but there is more maintenance. Since brushless has arrived, the motor maintenance isnt an issue (no fun cutting comms every run) and high battery capacity means you can go as fast as you want without dumping. With the advent of the BJ4, 4wd cars have started to handle more like 2wds (lots of steering and jump well) whereas some older 4wds had a tendcency to understeer a lot.
Im not sure where the reference to weight comes from - there is less than 10% difference in weight between the cars. The speed of an offroad car is limited by traction, not weight, so 4wds are always quicker (unless you are running 17.5T on a super grippy track).
I love the challenge of both classes and would be hard pressed to pick one over the other!
Ray
2wd is great when there is grip available. In Australia, where many of our tracks are very slippery / dusty, they can be very difficult to drive unless you have new tyres and your setup is perfect. This turns a lot of people off.
4wd is just plain fast at all times, but there is more maintenance. Since brushless has arrived, the motor maintenance isnt an issue (no fun cutting comms every run) and high battery capacity means you can go as fast as you want without dumping. With the advent of the BJ4, 4wd cars have started to handle more like 2wds (lots of steering and jump well) whereas some older 4wds had a tendcency to understeer a lot.
Im not sure where the reference to weight comes from - there is less than 10% difference in weight between the cars. The speed of an offroad car is limited by traction, not weight, so 4wds are always quicker (unless you are running 17.5T on a super grippy track).
I love the challenge of both classes and would be hard pressed to pick one over the other!
Ray
06-23-2009, 06:08 PM
#9
Yes they offer more traction but that doesn't mean everything. Some like the challenge of 2wd and find it more fun. Not to mention 2wd is less expensive and weighs less. Also 4wd isn't very popular in some areas.
For example, would you rather through a Miata around a track or an Audi A4? Though the Audi is AWD deosn't mean I would rather drive one. The Miata is a much more fun car to drive not to mention it weighs about half of the Audi. Now that's not exactly a fair comparison but you see what I'm saying.
For example, would you rather through a Miata around a track or an Audi A4? Though the Audi is AWD deosn't mean I would rather drive one. The Miata is a much more fun car to drive not to mention it weighs about half of the Audi. Now that's not exactly a fair comparison but you see what I'm saying.
I always thought the Miata is a womens car....men drive the Honda 2000!
The old saying is true "If you can drive 2WD buggy real good, you will even be more dangerous in other classes!"
06-23-2009, 06:58 PM
#11
I think traditionally, 2wd buggy was THE class. In terms of racing prestige and overall skill 2wd is king. Our track has a bunch of great drivers--everyone is pretty serious so the competition is tough, you can always race your 2wd buggy, 4wd only sometimes and the truck class doesn't really exist at our track. I think most serious drivers prefer 2wd.
On the other hand when you get a dialed 4wd going and you are hitting your lines and just cruising flawlessly around the track, the feeling is hard to beat--at least for me.
On the other hand when you get a dialed 4wd going and you are hitting your lines and just cruising flawlessly around the track, the feeling is hard to beat--at least for me.
06-23-2009, 07:26 PM
#12
I would be hard pressed to pick a S2000 over a Miata though. I mean a Miata weighs in at around 2400lbs while the S2000 comes in over 3000lbs. Maybe the fact that there is a Miata sitting in my driveway has something to do with it. Even if it isn't mine and i have to give it back tomorrow...
06-23-2009, 07:51 PM
#13
Haha then how come I see more women driving S2000's then Miata's?? I would be hard pressed to pick a S2000 over a Miata though. I mean a Miata weighs in at around 2400lbs while the S2000 comes in over 3000lbs. Maybe the fact that there is a Miata sitting in my driveway has something to do with it. Even if it isn't mine and i have to give it back tomorrow...
I would be hard pressed to pick a S2000 over a Miata though. I mean a Miata weighs in at around 2400lbs while the S2000 comes in over 3000lbs. Maybe the fact that there is a Miata sitting in my driveway has something to do with it. Even if it isn't mine and i have to give it back tomorrow...It really comes down to what you like. (i think)
But you would think AWD would be faster out the corners and more traction all together.. IDK though, ive never ran a 2WD before.
06-23-2009, 07:59 PM
#14
That is exactly why I chose to start my off road racing fun in the 2WD class. 2WD is the grand daddy of all RC offroad racing. To me it the root of the modern hobby.
