SC10 Thread
#3661
I also tried cutting the battery brace and running the battery all the way to the rear at my secret test track.
THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE!!!111!11!!1!1!!!!!!!!
After I reset preload for a level chassis, the truck would not hook up well and when it did break loose it was a giant swinging pendulum of death. All that weight in the rear makes it swing around twice as much once its loose.
Plus with all the weight at the rear, the truck stayed flat and could not rock back and transfer the weight to the rear. Tons of on power steering.
So to hook up the rear, try moving the battery forward and tune your suspension/droop to allow the truck to transfer the weight to the rear.
A similar thing happens in onroad 1/12th scale. Battery forward= rear grip, battery back = on power steering.
With the battery frward, you can run softer rear springs, a washer or two less in the front shocks, and less rear preload. The truck should squat and roll back lifting the front a little. Too much and you'll lose on power steering,but we have that in spades anyway.
If you don't squat and roll, your not going to hookup on my tracks.
THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE!!!111!11!!1!1!!!!!!!!
After I reset preload for a level chassis, the truck would not hook up well and when it did break loose it was a giant swinging pendulum of death. All that weight in the rear makes it swing around twice as much once its loose.
Plus with all the weight at the rear, the truck stayed flat and could not rock back and transfer the weight to the rear. Tons of on power steering.
So to hook up the rear, try moving the battery forward and tune your suspension/droop to allow the truck to transfer the weight to the rear.
A similar thing happens in onroad 1/12th scale. Battery forward= rear grip, battery back = on power steering.
With the battery frward, you can run softer rear springs, a washer or two less in the front shocks, and less rear preload. The truck should squat and roll back lifting the front a little. Too much and you'll lose on power steering,but we have that in spades anyway.
If you don't squat and roll, your not going to hookup on my tracks.
#3663
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,595
From: Covington, La.
while the blitz is a good car. I still like my sc10 the best out of all the SC cars i have driven. It is more than likely that i run all of their other 10th scale cars. I am intrested to see what the kyosho SC brings to the table.
#3664
The heavier fluid calms the rear on entry. As long as your smooth on exit you'll be fine.
Less turn in, more turn out.
But its easy to add turn in to the truck.
Anyone running black springs in the rear or cut black springs in the front? With only 30/25 shock oil I have enough pack to drop the truck from waist height and it won't bottom.
I added a swaybar. I'm trying to make a B4 like lite setup so that I'll only need 2 ounces weight added to my Sc10 with a 4000mah Zippy.
Less turn in, more turn out.
But its easy to add turn in to the truck.
Anyone running black springs in the rear or cut black springs in the front? With only 30/25 shock oil I have enough pack to drop the truck from waist height and it won't bottom.
I added a swaybar. I'm trying to make a B4 like lite setup so that I'll only need 2 ounces weight added to my Sc10 with a 4000mah Zippy.
Works good on a freshly watered track
#3666
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,520
From: Lost in the Dead Space between my Ears Somewhere around Wamego, KS (OZ Land)
I would get the SC10 kit and put your own electics in it. Parts are readily findable and you dont junk new electronics that you didnt need.
#3669
i would say the weakest point on the sc10 is the front A arms. they break a lot inside around the pins. but thats a b4/t4 thing too. both my sc10 and the guy in the pit next to me's t4 broke a right front A arm.
me and matt keep breaking right A arms, has anyone broken a left? haha
as for gearing the sc10, i would suggest starting around 25/84 or maybe 26/84, and temp it from there for your track. tonight i ran a somewhat open track and was geared at 23/84 and only got to 100 degrees after a 7 minute run. I would have geared up but the old set screw in the pinion gear stripped the head out of it, crap
for the 4x4 thinker, the sc10 is a great truck for the 2 wheel drive short course class. the 4x4 will be racing in its own class when they start arriving in stores. there were two 4x4 slashes at our small races tonight, they ran with another class of similar size
me and matt keep breaking right A arms, has anyone broken a left? haha
as for gearing the sc10, i would suggest starting around 25/84 or maybe 26/84, and temp it from there for your track. tonight i ran a somewhat open track and was geared at 23/84 and only got to 100 degrees after a 7 minute run. I would have geared up but the old set screw in the pinion gear stripped the head out of it, crap
for the 4x4 thinker, the sc10 is a great truck for the 2 wheel drive short course class. the 4x4 will be racing in its own class when they start arriving in stores. there were two 4x4 slashes at our small races tonight, they ran with another class of similar size
#3670
But in mod the table turns. The Sc10 thrives in mod. It's lightweight and spritely feeling keeps it competitive in stock. But in mod we can give the Sc10 the proper springs, bowties, +1 hubs, inline axles (dusty low bite tracks), and a sway bar.
In modded form the Sc10 blows away the Blitz. The Blitz deosn't have the plush soft suspension, that still has good pack, the Sc10 has. And the Sc10 has more rotation and feels lighter. Actually needs weight added on nearly every track I've been to.
Not to mention the Mip ball diff and the Sc10s ability to handle some big motors.
#3671
Tech Adept
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 154
I purchased a RC10T4 Factory team to race in the Masters Class in our area. My only other truck is a slash that I have modified to be as competitive as possible. The RC10T4 was fantastic out of the box. I tuned the suspension to be like was stated up thread. No issues with traction or steering.
I prefer the SCT class so I am now planning to switch my T4 to a SC10. This was my plan from the start. I expect that the SC10 will be way better than the Slash due to tune-ability and weight control. It will cost me about $120 for parts and tires/wheels to convert but much cheaper than a new SC10 Kit when you consider the MIP ball diff and ti parts. I plan to drill the rear shock tower to accept the bumper/body mount and will use the new RPM front bumper/brace so I don't need a new front shock tower. Should be light!!!
The SC10 is dominant in both Stock and Open SCT in our area. We allow the 1 deg hubs on Stock class which does help rear traction.
I prefer the SCT class so I am now planning to switch my T4 to a SC10. This was my plan from the start. I expect that the SC10 will be way better than the Slash due to tune-ability and weight control. It will cost me about $120 for parts and tires/wheels to convert but much cheaper than a new SC10 Kit when you consider the MIP ball diff and ti parts. I plan to drill the rear shock tower to accept the bumper/body mount and will use the new RPM front bumper/brace so I don't need a new front shock tower. Should be light!!!
The SC10 is dominant in both Stock and Open SCT in our area. We allow the 1 deg hubs on Stock class which does help rear traction.
#3674
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Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,433
From: awahtukee, AZ
I also tried cutting the battery brace and running the battery all the way to the rear at my secret test track.
THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE!!!111!11!!1!1!!!!!!!!
After I reset preload for a level chassis, the truck would not hook up well and when it did break loose it was a giant swinging pendulum of death. All that weight in the rear makes it swing around twice as much once its loose.
Plus with all the weight at the rear, the truck stayed flat and could not rock back and transfer the weight to the rear. Tons of on power steering.
So to hook up the rear, try moving the battery forward and tune your suspension/droop to allow the truck to transfer the weight to the rear.
A similar thing happens in onroad 1/12th scale. Battery forward= rear grip, battery back = on power steering.
With the battery frward, you can run softer rear springs, a washer or two less in the front shocks, and less rear preload. The truck should squat and roll back lifting the front a little. Too much and you'll lose on power steering,but we have that in spades anyway.
If you don't squat and roll, your not going to hookup on my tracks.
THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE!!!111!11!!1!1!!!!!!!!
After I reset preload for a level chassis, the truck would not hook up well and when it did break loose it was a giant swinging pendulum of death. All that weight in the rear makes it swing around twice as much once its loose.
Plus with all the weight at the rear, the truck stayed flat and could not rock back and transfer the weight to the rear. Tons of on power steering.
So to hook up the rear, try moving the battery forward and tune your suspension/droop to allow the truck to transfer the weight to the rear.
A similar thing happens in onroad 1/12th scale. Battery forward= rear grip, battery back = on power steering.
With the battery frward, you can run softer rear springs, a washer or two less in the front shocks, and less rear preload. The truck should squat and roll back lifting the front a little. Too much and you'll lose on power steering,but we have that in spades anyway.
If you don't squat and roll, your not going to hookup on my tracks.
#3675
arent the red springs stiffer than the silvers? are you moving the battery back and making the front end stiffer?



