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Old 08-23-2004, 03:35 AM   #706
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My 6 year old Mugen MBX4RR still kicks major butt though! People can't believe that they're getting lapped by such an old car I suppose if I didn't buy such quality items in the first place, I wouldn't have to keep things till they got really old!!
Dude, it's not THAT old, it's not like the latest 1/8 buggies are leaps and bounds over the RR. Anything released in the last handful of years from a good manufacturer should be pretty competitive.

Bit of kyosho style suspension here, some laydown servos there, throw in some pbs and graphite, and ta-da, a new kit so all the latest-and-greatest retards can go and waste all their money.

And kyosho is no better... oh look lets lower the engine mount 0.21312432mm and lower the servo tray 2mm... NEW KIT KANAI EDITION SUPER SPECIAL EVO 9999999

The buggy industry these days is imho just milking money rather than "going anywhere" as such...
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Old 08-23-2004, 05:10 AM   #707
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Dude, it's not THAT old, it's not like the latest 1/8 buggies are leaps and bounds over the RR. Anything released in the last handful of years from a good manufacturer should be pretty competitive.

Bit of kyosho style suspension here, some laydown servos there, throw in some pbs and graphite, and ta-da, a new kit so all the latest-and-greatest retards can go and waste all their money.

And kyosho is no better... oh look lets lower the engine mount 0.21312432mm and lower the servo tray 2mm... NEW KIT KANAI EDITION SUPER SPECIAL EVO 9999999

The buggy industry these days is imho just milking money rather than "going anywhere" as such...
Dude - you said it!! Obviously there are exceptions, but generally I see the 1/8th buggy section of the sport getting very 'faddish', just like the 1/10th buggies did during their hayday.

I agree that alot 'racers' get suckered into buying new stuff that's probably no quicker in the real world than their dialled existing car.

The trouble is - we all like buying new stuff It bodes well for the industry's future.

Regards my Mugen MBX4 RR - there's not a huge difference in the overall concept of the car when compared to the current crop of 1/8th buggies. For grass racing, I like the fact that the engine is further forwards on my RR than virtually any other design.

I imagine the newer versions are stiffer and more durable etc. I can't wait to buy either an XB8 or an MBX5 SE.
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Old 08-23-2004, 07:28 AM   #708
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I guess I would have to say after reading that is that there is a big difference to the people who can use it.. just a millimeter of change on this or that on my car and I can tell..

for instance when comparing buggies.. the x4 and the x5 are silly how much different they drive and react to tracks.. there is no comparison at all.. the longer arms and lower cg make the x5 drive very smooth... plus about 100 other things..

there is just a level of driving you get at where you know what your car is doing and you know what is better and what is not..

as far as the kyosho cars.. the small changes they make to every car they release is rather silly.. I don't see the point in what they do.. kyosho has terrible wear on parts.. so, the kyosho drivers I know buy new ones quite often.. so, they always have the latest and greatest K car.. which isn't much greater than the previous model
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Old 08-23-2004, 04:51 PM   #709
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my mbx4xr sucked in comparison to my mbx5 the x5 was a big step up

i now drive a K2 and it was a much smaller amount better than my mbx5 than the mbx5 was over my mbx4xr

but it is better IMO

however on the flip side of the arguement the new 777 seems to be just like the K2 same design but different parts

i havent driven a 777 but i can tell you guys who used to crush me with my mbx5 are either getting beaten or are much closer to me now with my K2 and they are running 777

for them it seems the 777 had no advantage over their old kyosho cars but i have made a large improvement with my K2 over my mbx5

now dont get me wrong i dont wanna bash on the mbx5 i think its still a good car but i like my K car better

and regardless i will be getting a 777 sometime next season but mainly because i want to start with a fresh car rather than actually needing 1
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Old 08-23-2004, 05:30 PM   #710
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I just bought a set of Proline 1/8 scale Bowtie's. Has anybody ever seen these before. I'm an experienced racer, so it is an 1/8 scale tire, not a truck tire. I was just really surprised - it doesn't show up anywhere on Prolines site and I had never seen them before. Does anybody know where I can find more?
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I didnt even know they made bowties for 1/8. i would be concerned that they are to soft for the horsepower of a 1/8th buggy
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I'd be curious to know what the part # on those tires is, I wonder if it's something really new or really old.
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Check out the Kanai 2 on ebay! comes with a P5 and the new mugen starter box!
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Hi, I'm new to RC and I'm very interested in off road nitro, the Kyosho Inferno 7.5 Sports RTR got my attention becuase it got everything in the box already. I was just wondering does anyone know a site that sells this buggy for a good price? Thank you in advance.
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some new pics of my new wheels, down at the botom, pcrfixed, i gota get some offroad wheels soon.
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Old 08-26-2004, 12:34 AM   #717
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Hi

Just got myself a second hand 1/8 buggy, MBX 4.

Just wondering if the center diff's gears are 32 pitch?

Thanks in advance.

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www.towerhobbies.com theyve got some pretty good deals.
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I'm selling a pro level MBX5 with all the hopups available and some custom cnc'd parts on it.. $400 plus shipping..
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