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Old 03-21-2009, 01:35 PM   #1
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im converting slayer to brushless and was wondering if i could run the monster mamba 2200kv w/esc without using lipo battery
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Castel only mentions a123s and lipo. I don't think NiMH have teh current to run a MMM combo.

http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...a_monster.html
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im converting slayer to brushless and was wondering if i could run the monster mamba 2200kv w/esc without using lipo battery
Go with the 5700. Seems to be the "brushless of choice" for Slash guys...
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Slash = Not Slayer


Some guy at our track runs a converted Slayer, don't know what he runs, but it is probably a MMM 2200kv.
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ok thanks i might just go with traxxas vxl
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ok thanks i might just go with traxxas vxl
I would go with the 5700kv mamba.
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Old 03-21-2009, 07:41 PM   #7
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The Mamba 5700 seems to be the choice for Slash on the Traxxas forum as well. I run a Novak GTB 8.5 Brushless with a 7 cell on another truck and have really good results. You won't see the performance of Lipo, but from my experience, it will definitely work.

Keep in mind that ROAR just released Provisional Slash rules and if you want to race, it has to be 17.5 brushless or 27 turn brushed. Hope that helps.
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Since you are converting a Slayer and not a Slash I would stay away from the 5700 and the VXL. Go with something larger like the MMM 2200 or a MMM with a Medusa or Neu motor. THe 5700 and VXL are designed for 1/10th cars and the Slayer being based on a monster truck is a bit much load for 1/10th systems. Being a 4wd drive instead of a 2wd will put a bit more load on the motor.
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I anticipate running the MMM/2200kV combo with NiMH would probably end up killing the batteries. I remember how hot my NiMH packs got with the draw of an Orion Revolution 13T in my BK-2. They'd probably friggin blow up with the amps the MMM sucks up.
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I've been running the brushless e ervo with nimhs for the past month with no problems whatso ever. I run orions 4500 7 cell. The batteries do get warm but nothing close of popping. If you use quality nihms you will be fine. The only correction I had made on the MMM is set the punch control to 80%. I get around 35min of run time with this setup.
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[QUOTE=T-bear;5583592]I've been running the brushless e ervo with nimhs for the past month with no problems whatso ever. I run orions 4500 7 cell. The batteries do get warm but nothing close of popping. If you use quality nihms you will be fine. The only correction I had made on the MMM is set the punch control to 80%. I get around 35min of run time with this setup.[/QUOTE

thank's if i run the MMM it will be with venom 8.4v 5000 Nimh 7 cell and when venom release's the 9.6 5000 i'll go to that so iy should work?
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I will highly suggest you stay away from venom packs, they are not quality cells. Stick with Orion, SMC, SPC promatch cells are you will good to go. Pay a couple bucks more for the good cells that will put out when you need them too.
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My Mamba 5700s killed my Venom packs, quite quickly, and thoroughly

You WILL want to set your "Start Power" to LOW. Otherwise it's most likely going to cog like crazy, and have massive lag from a dead stop.

My SMC 3600s couldn't go above medium without the lag.
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I just talked with castle creations and they said that if i run it without lipo's it will lag in performance since i run small dirt oval he suggested to run 2s lipo's have plenty power and not trash rest of car also talked about elite battery packs if not running lipo's anyone ever used elite's
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I'd recommend something other than the Elite's for a Monster Max.

They may have the C rating for it... But they lack the punch for running.

In my E-Jato with a 13.5 turn BL motor, they had the same acceleration/speed as my 3600 NiMh packs... Just more run time.

My MaxAmps batteries have WAY more punch and, a fair bit more top speed, as well...

Go SMC, or another big name brand, and you'll be much happier
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