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Old 08-23-2010, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by grapejuice
I'm running 10k front 5k rear, still playing around with the shocks but currently at Losi 32.5 wt. front and rear, two hole front drilled to 55's and three hole rear drilled to 55's. Just got some springs so we'll see how they do, and I at least want to go up to 35wt. in the front.
I will have to ask you at the track what sizing you use to drill. Will Losi shock pistons fit in these? What springs did you get? I was thinking of getting 1 set stiffer and 1 set softer for both front & rear.
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Originally Posted by grapejuice
I'm running 10k front 5k rear, still playing around with the shocks but currently at Losi 32.5 wt. front and rear, two hole front drilled to 55's and three hole rear drilled to 55's. Just got some springs so we'll see how they do, and I at least want to go up to 35wt. in the front.
What are "55's"?
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Old 08-23-2010, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mdowney
What are "55's"?
I believe they are Losi piston equivalents . . .
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Old 08-23-2010, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mdowney
What are "55's"?
it's a size 55 drill bit. Losi pistons are annotated by size like 54, 55, 56 and that corresponds to the drill bit size. Smaller the number, bigger the hole.
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Old 08-23-2010, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Howard
it's a size 55 drill bit. Losi pistons are annotated by size like 54, 55, 56 and that corresponds to the drill bit size. Smaller the number, bigger the hole.
Ahh, yes! Based off wire gauge size . . .
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Old 08-23-2010, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Howard
it's a size 55 drill bit. Losi pistons are annotated by size like 54, 55, 56 and that corresponds to the drill bit size. Smaller the number, bigger the hole.
Yes...I used Hupo's set-up from cactus as a base set-up, he drilled the rear to 1.3mm and the front to 1.4mm. After a little reading on oople I decided to just drill both to 1.3mm which is pretty close to a 55 (55 measured to be 1.27mm) and went just a touch lighter on oil, now I have the springs he was running, so I am going to try those as well as going up in wt. on the front oil, I also have the side weights now too....so, we'll see how it goes.
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Old 08-24-2010, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bigBoyBigToy
i wouldnt think this car needs weight because its already heavy car,maybe for outdoors but indoors it wont be needed imo, the car is real loose in the rear till you get the slipper set correctly for you needs and make some adjustments with ride hieghts and radio and maybe move the rear arms all the way foward and i have mine hooked up in the rear now for indoors hi traction packed dirt.. at first it was a super handful i mean i was like holy hell lol....cant wait till wed for session 3 on this bad boy...also gonna try some new holeshot m3 2.o i heard the HOOOOOKed
i dont know what i was thinking when i said i didnt think the car needed a sway but i am going to try the rear sway kit in my 3rd session tommorow,i think it will only make the car smoother and more traction thru the turns
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Old 08-24-2010, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bigBoyBigToy
i dont know what i was thinking when i said i didnt think the car needed a sway but i am going to try the rear sway kit in my 3rd session tommorow,i think it will only make the car smoother and more traction thru the turns
I think it would be worth trying for sure. Will you let us know what you find out? When I was researching setups for the B44 I heard many state that a rear sway on a 4x4 is a good thing. Thanks,

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when I ran my XXX-4 I always ran a sway bar. The car seemed to generate more rear traction while squaring up out of corners better.
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I think it all depends on the track. If its bumpy I think sways will hamper your ability. My track indoors is pretty bumpy with the exception of the main straight and a few infield sharp turns. I find that the car turns just fine without it. With the proper setup I dont think you will need them unless you have really fast long sweepers or the track is high traction. Otherwise you really can do without them.

I ran the car all day yesterday at the local track and not one breakage. Except for a steering knuckle and that was my fault. I collided with a rb5 in mid air and landed on the front left wheel. but had a spare. Otherwise...smooth sailing and the car was dialed. made a few adjustments as I went on and in the end the car was glued.
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Originally Posted by tonyv2382
I think it all depends on the track. If its bumpy I think sways will hamper your ability. My track indoors is pretty bumpy with the exception of the main straight and a few infield sharp turns. I find that the car turns just fine without it. With the proper setup I dont think you will need them unless you have really fast long sweepers or the track is high traction. Otherwise you really can do without them.

I ran the car all day yesterday at the local track and not one breakage. Except for a steering knuckle and that was my fault. I collided with a rb5 in mid air and landed on the front left wheel. but had a spare. Otherwise...smooth sailing and the car was dialed. made a few adjustments as I went on and in the end the car was glued.
Do you run stock springs and oil?
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Originally Posted by dangerwr
Do you run stock springs and oil?
No I run 10k front diff/ 5k rear. I may go down to 7k up front as it is pushing slightly. Front shock= black springs/45wt oil stock pistons...rear shocks 35 wt oil black springs stock pistons. shock positions I forgot at the moment I will list later. But running 6.5 tekin and rs pro...DDDIALED.
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Yeah our track is super hi traction and very smooth as butter with big long sweeper... i believe the reason we always run a sweeper is for mains and qualifiers so your not always jammed up in the start of a race...the car is already dialed imo perdy damn good the rear sway and the stiffer springs could only make it even better possibly if not no biggie
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Old 08-24-2010, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tonyv2382
No I run 10k front diff/ 5k rear. I may go down to 7k up front as it is pushing slightly. Front shock= black springs/45wt oil stock pistons...rear shocks 35 wt oil black springs stock pistons. shock positions I forgot at the moment I will list later. But running 6.5 tekin and rs pro...DDDIALED.
the one thing i noticed about the durango vs the Kyosho fs when i ran them last week both in the same session the durango has no push whatsoever i mean NONE!!!!!!!!!! FREAKING SICK no push with 20k front and 5k rear....the fs had a slight push actually more than slight compared..
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Old 08-24-2010, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tonyv2382
No I run 10k front diff/ 5k rear. I may go down to 7k up front as it is pushing slightly. Front shock= black springs/45wt oil stock pistons...rear shocks 35 wt oil black springs stock pistons. shock positions I forgot at the moment I will list later. But running 6.5 tekin and rs pro...DDDIALED.
Thanks for taking the time to post this info. I will definitely start with 10k in front and 5k in rear. Grapejuice runs at the indoor near Denver (MHOR) so will bug him more about shock setups . . .

Looks like the Black are 2.13lb front and 2.86lb rear which are two springs stiffer than light blue and two springs softer than the dark blue.
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