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Old 05-20-2013, 12:23 AM
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Looking for some advice..
I have driven my DMX conversion for two long days now, and even with all the weight moved backwards I still have more than enough steering. My biggest problem is that its trying to spin out in high speed turns. Im runnind 7k/3k oil in the diffs. Im using SB`S with dgreen springs up front, lred at the rear, caliber tires works best at the moment, second best are the holeshots.. Ride height is 21/21.
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:25 AM
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how many degrees of rear toe do you guys prefer to run? 4 or 3*?

what surface?
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by zzztech
how many degrees of rear toe do you guys prefer to run? 4 or 3*?

what surface?
On high grip astro turf I use 0deg hubs, on all other surfaces I use 1deg hubs.
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ridgeracer
Looking for some advice..
I have driven my DMX conversion for two long days now, and even with all the weight moved backwards I still have more than enough steering. My biggest problem is that its trying to spin out in high speed turns. Im runnind 7k/3k oil in the diffs. Im using SB`S with dgreen springs up front, lred at the rear, caliber tires works best at the moment, second best are the holeshots.. Ride height is 21/21.
Any thoughts ?
Remove some rear droop...longer rear chamber link and or raise the rear inner chamber link position...
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Lets talk sway bars. I see many setup sheets indicating a rear bar only setup even on low traction surfaces. With most people complaining about a lack of rear traction this seems counterintuitive to me. Can anyone offer an explanation?
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by McD44
Lets talk sway bars. I see many setup sheets indicating a rear bar only setup even on low traction surfaces. With most people complaining about a lack of rear traction this seems counterintuitive to me. Can anyone offer an explanation?
This seems odd to me as well. If anyting, this car has more than enough steering and can be loose in the rear end. How on earth can anyone drive the car with no front swaybars????!!!!!
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by symmetricon
Remove some rear droop...longer rear chamber link and or raise the rear inner chamber link position...
Thanks. Will try this tommorow.
Drove my regular 410 today and it was very good. 1.3 swaybars front and rear. BB with 2x1.6/35 oil front and 3x1.5/25 oil at the rear.
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:40 PM
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Just for info D.A.R.C 410, I haven t tested it yet.





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Old 05-24-2013, 05:31 AM
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Sooo, any insight on the sway bar question? With a car that has a loose rear end why run only a rear sway bar? To put more pressure on the rear outside wheel?

I'll be racing mine for the first time this weekend. I'm going to start practice with a 1.3 front and 1.0 rear sway just to see what that feels like. From there I'll remove the front to see what change that makes. If that seems better I'll go to a 1.3 rear and give that a go.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:33 AM
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I tried a front bar and it does widen the arch of the turn the buggy can make and brings some stability to the buggy. What I thought was going to be faster lap times as a result was not on the indoor track I race at. In my case loose is fast.
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Originally Posted by McD44
Sooo, any insight on the sway bar question? With a car that has a loose rear end why run only a rear sway bar? To put more pressure on the rear outside wheel?

I'll be racing mine for the first time this weekend. I'm going to start practice with a 1.3 front and 1.0 rear sway just to see what that feels like. From there I'll remove the front to see what change that makes. If that seems better I'll go to a 1.3 rear and give that a go.


Is the rear loose under acceleration or rotation? If acceleration, try loosening the slipper. If rotation, I found the sway bar helps to keep the rear from dumping under load and causing it to spin-out. It helps the car rotate quicker and more consistent without dumping all the weight and inertia making the car rotate which will make it seem loose because of the increased momentum.
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Originally Posted by Heavy B
Is the rear loose under acceleration or rotation? If acceleration, try loosening the slipper. If rotation, I found the sway bar helps to keep the rear from dumping under load and causing it to spin-out. It helps the car rotate quicker and more consistent without dumping all the weight and inertia making the car rotate which will make it seem loose because of the increased momentum.
It's spins out when accellerating out of a corner, on power rotation. Diffs are 12500/10000.
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I would try loosening the slipper, sounds like the rear is out accelerating the front. I run Durango 5k in front and 3k in the rear for my diffs.
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Thanks. It does feel like everything is too locked in. I'll loosen the slipper and try some lighter diff fluids too.
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I ran Big bores for the first time today on my DEX410. Feels okay, One thing im not sure about is the setup. I was running Hupos basic shock setup and the front felt very very soft.

I run on a loose track and was getting a very big amount of oversteer. The rear shocks felt fine but the fronts felt too soft. The springs feel decent for the track but the shock oil must be too low. The rebound on the front shocks where too fast for a normal setup in my opinion.

This is the shock setup I was running and as far as the setup sheets go it appears to be what hupo runs on almost all off-road tracks, with minor shock mounting adjustments.

Front:
Spring: Dark Blue
Oil: 35wt
Piston: 4x4.1

Rear:
Spring: Light Blue
Oil: 25wt
Piston: 5x1.3

Any suggestions on a good basic big bore setup for a loose off-road dirt track would be great.

Thanks!
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