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Old 07-23-2012, 01:01 PM
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They are the small bore springs. Big bore springs only come in black.
Thank you that makes more sense then to me
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Old 07-24-2012, 06:49 AM
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Does anyone know how running the inner vs outter hole on the front aluminum hub affect handling?
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jha07
Does anyone know how running the inner vs outter hole on the front aluminum hub affect handling?
The inner hole will slow down the reaction and be smoother. It will also go through bumps better. Outer will be more precise and make the front end square up better.
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Old 07-24-2012, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kwiksi
The inner hole will slow down the reaction and be smoother. It will also go through bumps better. Outer will be more precise and make the front end square up better.
Thanks, that's what I had suspected.

Another question I had is about the front diff. I tried in the past playing with different fluid and found that a heavier front diff fluid increased on power steering. But recently, I increased the front diff fluid in my DESC410R and had the exact opposite result. I got less on-power steering.
Now I'm wondering if I was wrong before, or if the two cars just behave differently?
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Old 07-24-2012, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jha07
Thanks, that's what I had suspected.

Another question I had is about the front diff. I tried in the past playing with different fluid and found that a heavier front diff fluid increased on power steering. But recently, I increased the front diff fluid in my DESC410R and had the exact opposite result. I got less on-power steering.
Now I'm wondering if I was wrong before, or if the two cars just behave differently?
The sc has a center diff, so it will behave differently. If you had the locker in your sc I would think that you would have found the same thing as in your buggy. Also consider that there is much different leverage forces at work between the buggy and the sc- even though the diffs are the same, the size of the tires are very different. A possible explanation for why sc diff oils are generally higher than buggy oils. I don't really bother comparing between the two, rather tune to what each wants as you're racing. As long as the car does what you want and how you want, the numbers matter only for referencing a setup.
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonny5
The sc has a center diff, so it will behave differently. If you had the locker in your sc I would think that you would have found the same thing as in your buggy. Also consider that there is much different leverage forces at work between the buggy and the sc- even though the diffs are the same, the size of the tires are very different. A possible explanation for why sc diff oils are generally higher than buggy oils. I don't really bother comparing between the two, rather tune to what each wants as you're racing. As long as the car does what you want and how you want, the numbers matter only for referencing a setup.
Good point about the SC having a center diff.

Speaking only about the buggy, how did you find heavier diff fluid in the front affect handling?
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:51 PM
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Wondering when TD is going to release that center torque slipper posted awhile back.
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Originally Posted by jha07
Good point about the SC having a center diff.

Speaking only about the buggy, how did you find heavier diff fluid in the front affect handling?
It took away a bit of entry steering, but gave more on power steering out of the corner. That was on high bite clay, and we added a rear sway bar to loosen the back up on entry then.
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I'm changing to indoor, is there any merit handeling wise in changing to plastic side rails, I have the spec edition with the alloy sides?

Has anyone done much testing between the 2

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Originally Posted by Jpm1
I'm changing to indoor, is there any merit handeling wise in changing to plastic side rails, I have the spec edition with the alloy sides?

Has anyone done much testing between the 2

Cheers Justin
It will "soften" the chassis up, allowing it to flex more. Depending on what you're trying to do it can help. We're using the Tresrey carbon chassis so the aluminum sides are the only thing we run.
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Originally Posted by Jpm1
I'm changing to indoor, is there any merit handeling wise in changing to plastic side rails, I have the spec edition with the alloy sides?

Has anyone done much testing between the 2

Cheers Justin
Plastic rails are better suited for loose outdoor tracks, felx makes the car more stable. Alloy rails work well on high traction indoor tracks, makes the car more percise in handling.
Just my opinion.
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You were right. This car does get the motor hotter than running TC. It seems it's only because it can't breathe tho. I installed a sonic 5.5 geared at 21/87. I ran it outdoor for about 5 mins and then went to the indoor track. One of the motor wires came unsoldered. I temped the motor and it was at 220deg! I put the vented body on and it helped a bit but still over 200. I'm running the SP 2.0 with the boost on zero. I know in TC on hot days I let the motor get up to 210 with no probs. does anyone run a fan on the motor somehow? I installed my revtech 8.5 and it runs at 140deg 24/87 gearing with 30deg of timing in it. It's plenty fast and will get the job done. I really want the power of the 5.5 back tho. Any advice is appreciated. But DAMN do I love this car!!
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LRP and Reedy's run hot..
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Originally Posted by KH
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You were right. This car does get the motor hotter than running TC. It seems it's only because it can't breathe tho. I installed a sonic 5.5 geared at 21/87. I ran it outdoor for about 5 mins and then went to the indoor track. One of the motor wires came unsoldered. I temped the motor and it was at 220deg! I put the vented body on and it helped a bit but still over 200. I'm running the SP 2.0 with the boost on zero. I know in TC on hot days I let the motor get up to 210 with no probs. does anyone run a fan on the motor somehow? I installed my revtech 8.5 and it runs at 140deg 24/87 gearing with 30deg of timing in it. It's plenty fast and will get the job done. I really want the power of the 5.5 back tho. Any advice is appreciated. But DAMN do I love this car!!
My guess is a bad motor. I had a problem with my 8.5t Novak Ballistic getting too hot, installed a 8.5t Speed Passion and temps were WAY cooler
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