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Old 09-30-2014, 10:08 PM
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I stated another thread to ask this question, but I'm thinking I should have asked it here. I'm putting a Fantom 7.5 in my DEX410 and racing on a tight, technical track. What spur/pinion combo should I use?
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:51 PM
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Old 10-01-2014, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by thefan
I pulled the trigger on the 410v4 im sick of 2wd bye bye 210, anyway are the alloy diff hoops needed and what about the alloy mid drive plate?
I wouldn't say the alloy diff hoop is a necessity. Like incubus, I haven't broken a plastic hoop either.
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I've never broken my plastic hoops either….I've broke shock towers and arms. Arms more often, but only on full speed hits….
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Old 10-01-2014, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by the incubus
You're going to want to run a 6.5 or 5.5 on a 410 depending on the size of the track. I'd go with the Orion over the Tekin.

As for the diff hoops, I don't have them and have never broken the plastic ones. Your money is better spent on the rear skid plate weight and the 21* front blocks if you find the car a tad too twitchy.

The Tresrey servo arm is made for the 410 but they had stopped production in anticipation of the new 410 being different, but Konich said in the Tresrey forum they are going to do new runs of their 410 stuff because they fit the v4. I'd imagine he meant the front and rear blocks and all the other little tidbits as well.

Welcome to the family and enjoy
What motor would you recommend for a newbie to the class? I got sick of watching 4wd buggies having some much fun and bought the 410. 6.5 is ridiculously fast for someone coming from 6lb sct.
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Old 10-01-2014, 03:10 AM
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Thanks to all for the suggestions I recognize many familiar names from the 210 thread, I dont have the kit in my hands yet but does the manual have a basic starting setup as far as shock pistons antisquat etc...or can you recommend one from petit for a dirt outdoor track
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Old 10-01-2014, 07:10 AM
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I run an 8.5 and like it, very driveable, doesn't get hot, and fast enough. I'm not as quick on the strait as some but it's easy to be consistent.

For set ups, the Dino Delemos set up is hooked up on petitrc
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Old 10-01-2014, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rcbambam
What motor would you recommend for a newbie to the class? I got sick of watching 4wd buggies having some much fun and bought the 410. 6.5 is ridiculously fast for someone coming from 6lb sct.
The issue with a Wheeler is that once they're well set up they can handle the power with relative ease and you can and will use that power when you are ready. It really comes in handy when you are coming from behind and have to push to the limit. This weekend I was coming from behind due to a broken rear block that saw me drop from a top 3 qualifying position to 4th in the B-main. I had to claw my way up to bump up to the A-main and that power allowed me to hit the triple flawlessly for about 10 laps and about to take first until a marshal messed it up for me. You can also go with a lower turn motor if you feel it's right for you and then turn up timing as you become well versed with the car's characteristics, or, if your ESC allows, add boost accordingly.

One thing to remember is that you don't always have to utilize all the power at your disposal and you have to be disciplined to ensure quick, consistent lap times. I went from an Orion VST Pro 5.5 to a Reedy 6.5 and my car is just as fast. The Reedy is a smother motor in every respect but it's marginal. You can go with a Speed Passion V3 6.5 and it will perform just as good as these 2, at less than half the cost. I only have these because they came cheap. The Orion design is one that did present an issue that I'd prefer to never experience again, but I keep it as a backup just in case.

Now if you want the best motor, I haven't found a motor better than an LRP. They are in my experience, the cream of the crop. Smooth and powerful and the longest lasting motor, and are engineered to handle higher temps than most.
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Old 10-01-2014, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by rcjunky1
I run an 8.5 and like it, very driveable, doesn't get hot, and fast enough. I'm not as quick on the strait as some but it's easy to be consistent.

For set ups, the Dino Delemos set up is hooked up on petitrc
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I normally like a 7.5. Its fast and also pretty controllable at most 10th scale tracks. 87/22 or 23 is normally a good combination. And guys with 6.5 can't really pull away on you cause they can't lay down all that power due to wheel spin, while a 7.5 wont light up the tires as much, but you still have the top speed. If the straights are long, add like 10-15 degrees of turbo.

A 6.5 is fast and probably suited to a 8th scale sized track.
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Old 10-01-2014, 07:40 AM
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Yeah, our track is pretty big. 8th scale cars run on it comfortably and can barely clear the quad in the back while a few of us can clear the triple well with out 10th scale wheelers. The 8th scale track a few miles away is even bigger.

As my good friend Felix Law says… More Powah!!! LOL


This is a previous layout that doesn't feature the big quad but the current layout does have it.

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Originally Posted by 13Maschine
@Dino_D: Can you post pics of your vorza shock protectors installed on the 410?
I thought you saw my post:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/13552268-post16837.html

If you need a close up view, I can post another shot of it tonight when I get home.
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Or find someone to make 5mm front towers, mine is a tank, totally cleared off the bulkheads earlier in the year and the tower didn't even flinch. I run the Dino set up with 5k front oil, a little tamer on power. I found this car sensitive to ride height, especially in the rear, so if it's a little loose lowering the back a bit makes it planted
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Old 10-01-2014, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Dino_D
I thought you saw my post:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/13552268-post16837.html

If you need a close up view, I can post another shot of it tonight when I get home.
YES PLEASE. I'll probably pick up a set anyway, but just curious how they look on your ride.

I've always thought having the shocks in front of the tower causes the tower to break more often than having them behind the tower and I hope something like this helps keep them from digging in.
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Thanks for the build ideas!

Few more questions:

1. Motor turn conversation leaves me unclear. I have a super fast friend running a 7.5T Reedy Sonic in his XB4. He's a better driver than me and suggested I get an 8.5T. We race at a smallish indoor track (Island Raceway-Long Island NY)

2. Looking at the Savox 1251MG and 1252MG Low Pro Servos. Opinions? I have full size servos but read a lot here about front heaviness of the DEX410. (I bought the 30gr rear skid weight).

3. Want to get Lunsford Turnbuckle Set. Should I get the 3mm or the 3.5mm Superduty? Should I run Lunsford or DEX410V4 Ball Cups?

4. Are the DEX410V4 kit shock springs a good starting point or should I get other springs?

Thanks, Jason
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Old 10-01-2014, 04:09 PM
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1. 6.5-8.5 is fine, I run a 8.5 with a bit of timing and do pretty good, I'm just down a bit of speed on the 130' strait
2. low pro servo's aren't as robust, got 1258tg and don't look back
3. if you're spending the money, go big or go home
4. I run the Dino set up, I don't think it uses stock springs
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