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Old 01-17-2014, 09:49 AM
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I've got a 3.5 as well, just missing the ball studs, caster blocks and dual slipper, and don't have the new color of servo saver bits :P Got all the plastics, shock parts and center universals. Just a heads up, the new dimec x ball cups don't have enough in a pack for a full car, its only 1 tree in the pack instead of the needed 2 like the original hd ones came with, making them almost double the price.
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Old 01-17-2014, 07:14 PM
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Has anyone tried a 4 pole in one of these, and how did it work out??? I am thinking it should run cooler? I am running a max pro with a trinity d3.5 10.5 and using a 19 pinion. Would I be able to run a 21 pinion? Forgot to add, running on a small indoor clay track.

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Old 01-17-2014, 08:30 PM
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Should be able to gear up, I think I've got a 23t with a 8.5. As for a 4 pole I'd be concerned with the diffs with that much torque, but I'm sure it can be done if you use the current limiter on most esc's.
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Hey guys. Quick question. I'm new to the 410. I'd like to upgrade to the universal joints but they aren't cheap. Looking at either the center shafts or the axle shafts first. What cvs usually see the most wear. I'm assuming the center shafts because the angles of the gearboxes?
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Old 01-17-2014, 10:20 PM
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I haven't done any u-j's yet but I'd say the center ones too. The D-j's produce a lot of heat in the center.
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Originally Posted by lee111m
I haven't done any u-j's yet but I'd say the center ones too. The D-j's produce a lot of heat in the center.
Actually the D-joints are a large improvement over the stock cvd pieces, they run much lower temps. If your d-joints are getting hot, then you need to look at the wear on the connecting pins, as they are more than likely in need of replacement. I am interested to see what the wear is going to be on the u-joints, if there is going to be rebuild parts available, or just have to replace them when they get sloppy...
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I wish someone would try the Tekin Pro 2 4 pole in one of these... It has an 1/8 shaft and 5100 kv. I guess it would make a great outdoor motor?
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Originally Posted by STUBYSLAP31
Hey guys. Quick question. I'm new to the 410. I'd like to upgrade to the universal joints but they aren't cheap. Looking at either the center shafts or the axle shafts first. What cvs usually see the most wear. I'm assuming the center shafts because the angles of the gearboxes?
I've upgraded my whole 410 with the UJs. For me axle shafts wore out the fastest. I might have replaced the centers once in the time that I replaced the 4 corners a number of times. I got the UJs back in early December, so I don't know much out their wear yet. I will say that the temps on the center rear shaft has gone down over the stock cvd.
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The 4 pole issue would prob be the 48 pitch spur gear. That would be the weak link.

The rest of the drive line should hold up to a 4pole like it does in the DESC.

Not sure if anyone makes 1/8 shaft pinions in 48 pitch or a mod1 spur that fits a 410.
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Originally Posted by flame56mx
Actually the D-joints are a large improvement over the stock cvd pieces, they run much lower temps. If your d-joints are getting hot, then you need to look at the wear on the connecting pins, as they are more than likely in need of replacement. I am interested to see what the wear is going to be on the u-joints, if there is going to be rebuild parts available, or just have to replace them when they get sloppy...
Sorry I don't know why but I meant CVD's not d-j's.
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Originally Posted by Mundy1
The 4 pole issue would prob be the 48 pitch spur gear. That would be the weak link.

The rest of the drive line should hold up to a 4pole like it does in the DESC.

Not sure if anyone makes 1/8 shaft pinions in 48 pitch or a mod1 spur that fits a 410.
Actually Castle makes 5mm 32p pinions but they are pricey.
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Originally Posted by platgof
I wish someone would try the Tekin Pro 2 4 pole in one of these... It has an 1/8 shaft and 5100 kv. I guess it would make a great outdoor motor?
I ran a Castle Creations 1406 5700 (quad pole) in it for one. After the race, I had intermittent height loss on the spur teeth(stock spur), and the inside of it had oosed ( read melted) out into the slipper area (my guess is the slipper was too loose for that amount of power ). I had to replace spur and slippers.

If it was properly tightened ( maybe locked, or two way) it might be good and also the CC motor is probably a little brutal, since its sensorless which might account for the intermittent loss of teeth

Quite a lot of power, and I don't think needed at all. Not sure the quad pole will really run cooler overall either. They are essentially KV x 2 ( so a 5700kv motor becomes a 11400kv ) meaning a lot more work on the ESC and motor power levels.

I'm running a 6.5 and its crazy fast at the moment.
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My buddy is running a castle 3800 with a sidewinder, I believe he is running on a 20t pinion, motor temp is no issue, just that esc I'm running a reedy 6.0 on a 19 with a trackstar 120amp esc. The motor is awesome but the esc is beyond difficult to calibrate but it's getting around the track good enough; I can't complain for the 50 bucks I paid. I would not buy another one, I ordered a cheaper hobbyking 120 for 40 bucks as a backup. It should be exactly like the brushless hobbies esc which works fine in one of my other rides.

I have still been considering the tekin Rsx. Lrp flow, and trackstar ms-01 esc but it's hard to justify those prices with other decent alternatives out there.
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Originally Posted by Mundy1
The 4 pole issue would prob be the 48 pitch spur gear. That would be the weak link.

The rest of the drive line should hold up to a 4pole like it does in the DESC.

Not sure if anyone makes 1/8 shaft pinions in 48 pitch or a mod1 spur that fits a 410.
Nope, I run 48 pitch in my desc and they are just as good as the mod one if not smoother and quieter. That is with a pro4 4000 for indoors.
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Has anyone compared the new plastic diff internals to metal? I ran my 410 for the first time with most of the v4 parts (no dual slipper or 19* blocks) and with a sonic mach 1 8.5 it had tons of power, and with a 23t pinion didn't get close to hot, to the point I didn't temp it or worry about doing the back to back I did after bumping up, I figure around 100*F after 5mins. From other locals running them they always seem to run hot and sluggish, but this thing was a rocket and never got hot. I'm now sold on the toro ts120 speed controler now though, awesome bang for buck and available in Canada
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