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Old 12-31-2008, 10:30 AM   #31
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I'm using WMM, so far I've tried to capture the race as a continuous
shoot so I can also get the Race Director as they call the shots in real time....

Here's an example of a vid that I really like the editing:

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Hey all: If the 1/8th 4wd e-buggy class realy starts to take of will we see companies offer full kits or aftermarket chassis that are made of lighter carbon fiber or some type of molded plastic/composite or do you still need to use aluminum chassis because of the size and durability factor of 8th buggies? Thanks for the info
I am sure we will see the full race spec treatment done on these things within the next couple years. Ican see the first step being 4mm CF main chassis with 2mm upper deck,and maybe the folks at Vantage would even do up a molded carbon fiber main chassis like they did for the revo(That would be the schizzle). Ultimately though I can see AE,LOSI,and XRAY all ending up with competition level electric kits with all the bells and whistles already tweaked into it.
I will say this, as people convert,and people build new cars,I can see nitro 1/8 going the way of the dinosaur just like 1/10 nitro 2wd truck did.
1/10 Nitro truck used to be one of the most popular classes because of the speed and power.Then as brushless evolved and you could get the same if not more speed and power than running nitro the class slowly died as guys that made the switch to nitro for the speed started switching back to electric for the conveinience.

regardless of what happens the next couple years are going to be very interesting to see what develops.
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Electric is cool..but I dont know why you guys are such haters/snobs (esp. handy..) when it comes to NITRO..Most track owners would rather have more racers not less..and by eliminating the nitro class they will have less..As the electric buggies get more refined you will see just how much faster they will be..their are a few other advantages also..you dont need a pit guy, less stuff to haul around..The best looking factory electric 1/8 buggy is the Caster Fusion..It's set up for 2 packs and the balance is really good..very well thought out buggy..you guys should give it a look..the Losi looks primitive in comparison..When I was racing on road I was 2 to 3 laps faster in 19 turn electric than what the nitro guys were running..and we had a few guys that had made the A's at the Roar nats in nitro..once they get everything figured out it wont even be close..I do think that in the future electric 1/8 scale will be the premier class..





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Electric is cool..but I don't know why you guys are such haters/snobs (esp. handy..) when it comes to NITRO..Most track owners would rather have more racers not less..and by eliminating the nitro class they will have less..
I'm not a hater (but am a little stubborn and outspoken, hence the appearance of snobbish)....

(I realize you're poking fun and not taking it all tooo seriously)

I am an old fart that gets headaches from the fumes and noise at nitro races.

While not a fan of the Gore style political takeover of internal combustion engines and making them evil, I am a realist. Electric is the way of the future in the real world, and from an electrical engineering education point of view, I think participating in these electric conversion projects is priceless.

Thank you for sharing your view, and I appreciate the input.
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Not being a hater dude, Just been there , done that.

As people switch and convert you wont see a drop in attendance.Hell I expect to see an increase in attendance just because out of the 7 tracks we have here within a 2 HR drive 5 of them are usually electric only due to neighbors and noise.I know there is NO way I would be able to have my backyard track without my neighbors calling the cops if I ran nitro still.

I can also see where electric 1/8 will be a positive for the hobby.No more frustrated newbs that cant tune an engine, or realized way too late that they have been running way too lean when they toast a motor.
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Not being a hater dude, Just been there , done that.

As people switch and convert you wont see a drop in attendance.Hell I expect to see an increase in attendance just because out of the 7 tracks we have here within a 2 HR drive 5 of them are usually electric only due to neighbors and noise.I know there is NO way I would be able to have my backyard track without my neighbors calling the cops if I ran nitro still.

I can also see where electric 1/8 will be a positive for the hobby.No more frustrated newbs that cant tune an engine, or realized way too late that they have been running way too lean when they toast a motor.
I know one person who hangs out here that speaks to the notion of being able to test and run his rig out in front of his house (on the block) and that he never could with a nitro due to the noise and irritated neighbor issue.

I'll let him speak for himself, share his story - but I think its a huge advantage.
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I have read all the pro/con posts and thought I would chime in....

I run 1/8 electric at my facility and its getting more popular weekly

I have a smaller track 85x55 indoor and yes its tight but fun as he**

Truhe, King, Hartson, Baker, Cavalieri, Sexton and many other top dogs have run electric 8 here and have had a great time, its a blast.

I have raced nitro for years and its completely different... I don't think 8 electric its gonna take over the world but it is a blast. Nitro WILL ALWAYS have its place on the big outdoor tracks.

The price point is a bit much still for 1/8 electric unlike the Slash which seems to be single handedly taking over everywere but i do believe that sooner rather then later most of the top nitro drivers will be doing both nitro and electric.

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I know one person who hangs out here that speaks to the notion of being able to test and run his rig out in front of his house (on the block) and that he never could with a nitro due to the noise and irritated neighbor issue.

I'll let him speak for himself, share his story - but I think its a huge advantage.
Electric (lipo/brushless) got me back into the hobby. When I discovered I could exceed nitro performance without the noise (no way in hell my neighbors are going to put up with a nitro driving on our street) I was sold.

I run my car at night all the time with no complaints. My neighbors think my car is the coolest thing in the world. I guarantee they would not tolerate a nitro though. In fact, I love RC, but if it kid started running a nitro in front of my house while I am trying to enjoy a quiet Sunday afternoon I would probably call the cops on him too.

I love watching the nitros blaze down my local tracks straight with the smoke pouring and the engine screaming... for about two minutes, then it gets old. Ever try holding a conversation down on pit row with all the nitros gassing it. Good lord. Maybe I am just getting old...

The nitro diehards will get over it when they get a taste of the electric power. 0-50 in about 2 secs puts a smile on most people's faces and will quickly make you forget the car isn't making any noise.
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Electric (lipo/brushless) got me back into the hobby. When I discovered I could exceed nitro performance without the noise (no way in hell my neighbors are going to put up with a nitro driving on our street) I was sold.

I run my car at night all the time with no complaints. My neighbors think my car is the coolest thing in the world. I guarantee they would not tolerate a nitro though. In fact, I love RC, but if it kid started running a nitro in front of my house while I am trying to enjoy a quiet Sunday afternoon I would probably call the cops on him too.

I love watching the nitros blaze down my local tracks straight with the smoke pouring and the engine screaming... for about two minutes, then it gets old. Ever try holding a conversation down on pit row with all the nitros gassing it. Good lord. Maybe I am just getting old...

The nitro diehards will get over it when they get a taste of the electric power. 0-50 in about 2 secs puts a smile on most people's faces and will quickly make you forget the car isn't making any noise.
Thank you.

Every once in awhile I like to reassure myself (and others) that I still remember a thing or two.....

(how long has it been since we traded those comments, wasn't it at RCU?)

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I have read all the pro/con posts and thought I would chime in....

I run 1/8 electric at my facility and its getting more popular weekly

I have a smaller track 85x55 indoor and yes its tight but fun as he**

Truhe, King, Hartson, Baker, Cavalieri, Sexton and many other top dogs have run electric 8 here and have had a great time, its a blast.

I have raced nitro for years and its completely different... I don't think 8 electric its gonna take over the world but it is a blast. Nitro WILL ALWAYS have its place on the big outdoor tracks.

The price point is a bit much still for 1/8 electric unlike the Slash which seems to be single handedly taking over everywere but i do believe that sooner rather then later most of the top nitro drivers will be doing both nitro and electric.

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Thank you for sharing your point of view from the West Coast scene.... I love that we can draw input from not just all across the country, but also folks have also been posting my electric 8th scale racing vids in various Asian France UK Sweden and other overseas Forums...

The class / sport is taking off like a rocket, I see no downside for any of us.
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I have been a believer in the BL movement once I saw an Assoc. 1/18 truck doing 70mph,was funny as hell and amazing. That was two years ago and I have since believed BL would take over 8th scale as soon as the bugs were worked out and they seem to have been worked out. I have my BL mbx6,one race under my belt and really enjoy it for all the stated reasons,-faster,no pit guy,no flame outs, no headaches (literally) on an on.

As Truhe stated the hour long mains are an attraction but I never have and never will be in a position to qualify for an hour main! The longest main I ever ran was with a Baja5b,that was 1/2 hour. Actually I thought the baja5b would take off bigger then it has because of the simplicity...wonder what holds that back? I sold mine because there was no place to race with competition. The BL buggy's/truggy;s run with nitro's here in socal which is a great thing. 15 to 20 min main is all I need and that is doable with present technology.

The plane guys figured it out but had the technology sooner. There are still many nitro planes in the air and they seem to co-exist.In fact I think I will buy an electric plane this week!
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Electric (lipo/brushless) got me back into the hobby. When I discovered I could exceed nitro performance without the noise (no way in hell my neighbors are going to put up with a nitro driving on our street) I was sold.

I run my car at night all the time with no complaints. My neighbors think my car is the coolest thing in the world. I guarantee they would not tolerate a nitro though. In fact, I love RC, but if it kid started running a nitro in front of my house while I am trying to enjoy a quiet Sunday afternoon I would probably call the cops on him too.

I love watching the nitros blaze down my local tracks straight with the smoke pouring and the engine screaming... for about two minutes, then it gets old. Ever try holding a conversation down on pit row with all the nitros gassing it. Good lord. Maybe I am just getting old...

The nitro diehards will get over it when they get a taste of the electric power. 0-50 in about 2 secs puts a smile on most people's faces and will quickly make you forget the car isn't making any noise.
Well said. I do the same thing when it comes to running my cars up and down the street. If I get something built and it is 2am, I go outside and run it. Couldn't do that with nitro. I live next to a car dealer so there is enough light outside 24/7. My very first car was nitro (1984'ish) and that is when I learned to hate it. Engines have improved greatly since then to the point where people can actually keep 10 of them on the track all running at the same time! Unfortunately, right now nitro is the most popular and thus the reason most tracks will do anything to have them running year round. I applaud Leisure's attempts to ventilate their indoor track, but it is no match for 8 or more nitro cars running around. My electric comes home spelling just like a nitro after a Saturday of mixed practice. I think the dirt on the track is just plain saturated with nitro and oil. If I make it though the day without a headache it is amazing.
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Well said. I do the same thing when it comes to running my cars up and down the street. If I get something built and it is 2am, I go outside and run it. Couldn't do that with nitro. I live next to a car dealer so there is enough light outside 24/7. My very first car was nitro (1984'ish) and that is when I learned to hate it. Engines have improved greatly since then to the point where people can actually keep 10 of them on the track all running at the same time! Unfortunately, right now nitro is the most popular and thus the reason most tracks will do anything to have them running year round. I applaud Leisure's attempts to ventilate their indoor track, but it is no match for 8 or more nitro cars running around. My electric comes home spelling just like a nitro after a Saturday of mixed practice. I think the dirt on the track is just plain saturated with nitro and oil. If I make it though the day without a headache it is amazing.
I am sure I have killed off a few brain cells prematurely after being indoors at LH all day. I haven't seen that much smoke in a room since my freshman year dorm room. At least that smoke gave me more than a headache... lol
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I cant wait until the out door season is here!! I will probally get one of the caster fusion buggies to run in our yearly points series.It just looks like too much damn fun!
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Not being a hater dude, Just been there , done that..
I have "been their done that" longer than most here on this board....most of the tracks that I race at is ALL nitro..1/10th scale off road in my area is non existent..DOA..so when I was done with on road..Nitro off road was the only choice....and like I care about what the neighbors think..if its before 10 pm..tough..I'm running my Nitros up and down the street....they show me no mercy with their weed blowers at 6 am..and the guy who lives next door has his going at 8 pm....
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