Hyperion chargers?
 

which charger is better:
HYPERION EOS0610I 250W 6S 10A BALANCING CHARGER

or the

HYPERION EOS0606IAD AC/DC BALANCING CHARGER 6S, 6A, 50W

i know one needs a power supply and one puts out more watts but they both are about the same price. im trying to switch over to run Lipos and want a hyperion charger but dont know why i would pick one over the other. if i get the DC one ill use my indy 16X9 to power it.
kinda lost on which one

I like the size and weight of the 0606i myself...

i THINK the first one is only AC or whatever as compared to the other being AC/DC. i could be very wrong though. I bought the 0606i ac/dc though. good enough for me, i plan on charging my first pack next week with it.

hyperions
 

they are no where near same price.. duo is 269.. the 6061 is 139
scratching my head..I have a hyperion eos501i 5amp I like it also have a X charger to balance my lipos that is $69 shipped to my door.. Both the last will fit in my pocket. but they need a power supply. a old atx computer power supply works 10$ at my local comp store.

not talking about the DUO , didnt list the DUO.

If you're running high capacity, multi cell lipos, the 50 watt output of the 0606i will limit your charge rate and make charging take a longer. If you're running smaller capacity, 2S, then the 0606i's 50 watt limit won't be a prob.

0610iNet is an awesome charger - I been using one for a little over a yr with a 25amp supply. I run 5s a123s and it will charge them at 10amps in about 15min! The 0606i would only be able to charge them at around 3amps due to its 50watt limit.

0610iNet is being replaced by the 0720iNet charger which will be the same basic charger, but has a discharge feature the 0610i does not have. Thats the reason 0610i seems to be cheap - they're basically on sale in front ot the arrival if the new 0720iNet.

No question in my mind - for that price diff even if I had to buy a PS, I'd go with the 0610iNet. I've been thinking about a 2nd one to network charge with.

i cant seem to find any info anywere (even in integy's site) about how many amps my indi 16x9 puts out to make sure its power supply can run the hyperion correctly. it works fine to power my pitbull charger though.

Im not sure which one is better because i have only used the 606I. With that said, Its a great charger. I don't use all of the features but what i have used works great. I would highly recommend this charger to anyone.

Pg 2 in your manual says 7amps..... Download manual, find 16x9, then click whatever page you want to see - only 4 pages, found in the specs on page 2.
This would be OK for the 0606i since its output is ~65watts. It should also run the 0610i, but no where near full output for than charger.

The 610I is the way to go if you will be running higher voltage, higher capacity packs. If you were to charge a 4S on the other model, you could only charge at something like 3.25A (the 50W limitation).

I have the Duo (just two 610's in one box) and it is a great charger. I imagine the single is just as good.

I have the EOS 0606I, you are correct about the charge rates, but for off-road we only use 2s so you can charge up to 6A with it, it works flawlessly good charger

to get an idea on what wattage charger you need, you simply multiply the volts of the larges battery you will be using, X the max amps you will be charging at. Ex. 4cell lipo 5000mah ~16 volts X 5amps = 80watts

to get an idea of what power suppy needed you can multiply the voltage of the power supply times the amps to get the total watts. Some power supplies put out more volts than others. Whats good about higher end hyperions is that they can handle a wide range of voltage (up to 24volts).

You must drive 1/10th offroad. For 1/8th we use 4s and higher. :nod:

Allow for about a 10-15% inefficiency in the power supply and you wont undersize you power supply. If you want to run a 250watt charger like the 0610INet, you'll need 288watt supply, say 300watts. When (if) you push the charger to its max, that way you'll have all the input power you need.

I run mine with a 345watt (13.8v, 25amps) supply and can power a smaller charger at the same time to charge another batt if I want/need to.

when i connect my (Venom 3600) NiMh battery to my new EOS0606i charger, i get to the charge screen and it reads like 8.xxx volts.

This is what I am doing..
plug in battery
plug into wall (no balance plug connected)
once its on i go to the nimh screen
choose 3 amps
hold down enter to start the charge and it started at 7.4xx and goes up

does it not cut off when full? or am i looking at it wrong? 7.2v venom 3600

Newer lipos
 

Some of the newer lipos "Orion, Fantom....) you can charge at twice the amps, so keep that in mind when purchasing lipos. They charge really fast!

You sure about that?

At 1C a 5000Mah Lipo took me exactly 22 min 43 seconds to hit 8.4V
At 2C that same 5000 Mah LiPo took 22 minutes 27 seconds to hit 8.4V

Remember, the ramp down from 8.4 is the same no matter what charger you use so you can even add that to the equation.

I urge you to try it, the only thing you gain by 2C charging is 25% less life expectancy of your LiPo

if you already have a power supply get the DC one.
I have the DUO is the best charger I have ever owned:nod:

+1

I recommend the higher output Hyperion 610 (250W) if you're running lipo. The 50w just won't have enough punch for a quick a charge. DC chargers w/ an external DC power supply are the way to go, the rating for built in AC/DC chargers is too low.

Try turning the charger on, do your battery setup, then plug the batt in and start the charge. I think there is a option in setup for turning the end of charge alarm off, make sure thats not turned off. I know with mine, the alarm sounds for only 15sec or so and if you're not there, you might not be aware that the charger has signaled its finished.

when disharging with the 0606i ac/dc, how do you go about a nimh 3600 battery? i wanted to discharge it, so i could recharge later this afternoon for a little run time before the work week. how many amps should i go for? its from .1 to 1 amp. the screen is like:

NiMH DISCHARGE
D=1.00A 4.8V

1A discharge, for sure. I discharge using an Integy charger at 4A - your discharge rate there is pretty slow (low). To discharge a 3000 pack if fully charged would take 3-hours. Why not just re-charge without a discharge? Should be fine for what you're describing.

>> does it not cut off when full? or am i looking at it wrong? 7.2v venom 3600

It will always be above 7.2v when charging. I just did an enerG 4600mAh pack and it was as high as 9.7v when charging. It "peak detects" when full. So, when it senses a drop in voltage based on the peak method it uses, it will stop charging. If the batteries are *NOT* warm when fully charged, it could be a false peak and you should just hit "charge" again and let it keep going. It should peak when done and the batteries somewhat warm.

Discharging a sport-pack, like a Venom 3600 isn't really needed. Cell balancing is more appropriate but it's hard to balance a stick-pack, so the most appropriate way to handle a sport pack is charge to warm - then run a while. When the car starts to noticeably slow-down, stop driving. Let the pack "cool" a few hours and re-charge again fully.

awesome, just wanted to know the proper way to handle this pack. thinking about using it in a mini slyder or slash. save lipos for the offroad truck.

can u charge lipo on the eos0606i ac/dc without using the balance plug? it says its recommended but I have heard people dont balance every charge. do i just let it keep going once my "balance plug not connected" screen pops up?

it doesn't say anything at all about NOT being safe....so we will see.

You will be fine as long as your battery is currently in good shape. And assuming you don't draw the battery down below 6.4V. It's good to balance the batteries now and then. But when you get a balancer why not use it every time? Doesn't hurt.

I don't balance my batteries every time. But I'm about due for some new ones. I think I'm approaching or over that 300 cycles mark.

Before I added balance taps to the 5S1P ands 6S1P a123 pacs I built, I obviously charged them without balancing using my 0610iNet. I did that for about a month til I finally added a balance tap to the pacs.

My understanding is that they recommend to balance every charge for packs 4S and above on the Hyperion charger. Before I did my 1/8th conversion with 4S I used 2S LiPo's on both my 1/10ths. I balanced once out of every 10 charges and never had any problems. I used Kokam cells which are believed to be top notch. Eventually I would balance every other time but noticed no difference. I hope this helps. Cheers!