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Old 12-11-2008, 09:07 AM   #1
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Default CASTLE CREATIONS MOTORS are now ROAR LEGAL!!!

I can't find anything on the ROAR site on this yet, but I just heard from Thomas over at Castle that they got the word from ROAR that their motors will now be included in the 2009 approved MOD brushless motors list.

That's all I know.... and yes, Thomas did tell me to spread the word about this.

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Old 12-11-2008, 10:04 AM   #4
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That is great. I understand not being legal in stock type classes but nice to see them be legal for Mod.
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It is about time, I am glad to hear they got ROAR approval.
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Now if they would please bring out a "stock" motor-ie something in the 2200 KV area. I would like to use my CC speed controls in stock class.(it would also be helpful if they would operate down to 3.7-4.8 volts). Don
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time for castle to stomp or lets say 'throttle' some folks at these 'meow' races.

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Now if they would please bring out a "stock" motor-ie something in the 2200 KV area. I would like to use my CC speed controls in stock class.(it would also be helpful if they would operate down to 3.7-4.8 volts). Don
This really can't happen due to how the stock rules are written. If they made one, it would cog just like running any other stock motor on a sensorless controller.
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From what I understand Mike Langford over at Castle worked really hard on this.

This is a great step for Castle and ROAR.
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Now if they would please bring out a "stock" motor-ie something in the 2200 KV area. I would like to use my CC speed controls in stock class.(it would also be helpful if they would operate down to 3.7-4.8 volts). Don
Be glad we have the mod motors approved. Not sure about stock in other areas but the area where I live no one runs stock anymore other than touring cars. Will they work on a stock motor of some type in the near future........not sure but for now at least everyone that owns a Castle setup has a class they can run in now so that is a great thing.
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As I understand it up until now all the "legal" motors were wye winds. Aren't the CC motors delta? That being the case, there is no good reason not to let a delta wound motor in "stock" class as long as it's performance characteristics are the same as a 17.5. I have 2 CC speed controls(sidewinder&MM) that I can't use in stock class because of ROAR's arbitrary BS rules! At one time I was a member of ROAR-but as long as this kind of NONSENSE persists I refuse to rejoin. Don
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Any "stock" or "spec" class will always have to use identically built motors...

The wye wind has become the standard for stock racing and there is no way to build an "identical" delta wind. Look what happened going from brushed to brushless. They tried to make it so you could keep running your brushed motors and be equal if not have more power than a brushless. Now with timing being adjustable within the esc and rotors getting better all the time there is a HUGE gap between brushed and brushless stock.

Also, its not a matter of simply making a motor of the same kv...delta wound motors have a lot more torque so you would have to go to an even lower kv to compensate, thus making it impossible to get proper gearing in most cars.

+1 for roar making the motors legal for mod. Mod should always be more of an "open" type class as far as motors go. You can overpower any car with any type motor...
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Hope to get them EFRA approved for the Swede´s then..
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