R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric Off-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-13-2008, 09:24 AM   #16
Tech Master
 
downtempo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Costa Mesa
Posts: 1,857
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to downtempo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister-T View Post
Trf501x is a tank, For the B44 just mount TRF501 Front arms on it (dremel job) and enjoy your armored car.
I would like to see some 1/9 scale buggy, large enough to have more space to fits whatever battery I want and to have some beefier parts like A-arms
+1 well over 200 hundred runs on my 501x and only 1 busted part.
downtempo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 09:38 AM   #17
Tech Master
 
Ed237's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Dudley PA
Posts: 1,431
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Default

I agree - 1/10 4wds are not fragile and dont need to be made beefier. But even so, I'm not too optimistic about the future of 1/10 scale off road. 4wd 1/10 scale is getting more expensive and 1/8 buggies are getting less expensive. A B44 kit is $340 compared to $460 for an RC8 and Hotbodies D4 is actually the same price as a D8 @ $375.

The newest 1/8 buggies steer like crazy and have no problem carving up tight indoor tracks frequently found in colder climates.

With all the recent developement into 1/8 scale escs, motors, lipos and potentially lower prices with economies of scale (more shared parts between nitro & electric) its only going to be a matter of time electric 1/8 scale buggy takes over.
__________________
Ed Toth

LCRC Raceway and Bumps & Jumps.

Last edited by Ed237; 11-13-2008 at 09:49 AM.
Ed237 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 09:45 AM   #18
Tech Legend
 
Cain's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: West Fargo, North Dakota
Posts: 29,548
Trader Rating: 240 (100%+)
Default

In general the newer wheelers appear to hold together better than before.

For me my best beater wheeler was the Academy SB Sport V1. The nylon parts on that were like almost RPM flexible, you would sooner strip a screw out on a hard impact than break a plastic part. Even came with a pogo stick like hard plastic wing, similar to 1/8 scale wings in material I would think and durability.

They have since improved with the latest version, SBV2 Pro which uses more race spec stuff and material. it also still retains a lot of durability.

The B44 also impressed me with its durability at a recent event. The guy really was pounding it hard, and other than chirping the diff, he was good to go durability wise.

All in all, I think most of the cars out now have improved beyond the XXX4 in durability. I would like to see losi come out with something new too, but I wouldn't be suprised if they don't.
__________________
Member - Red River Radio/Control Car Club
< Tekno EB48SL / SCT410.3 | Tekno EB410 x 2 | Yokomo YZ-2 DTM x 2 | LC Racing EMB-1 Buggies and Truggies >
Cain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 10:00 AM   #19
Tech Master
 
Ed237's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Dudley PA
Posts: 1,431
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Default

Losi just released a new beefier version of the XXX4. They are calling it the 8ight-E!

Expect AE and every other serious player to spend all their R & D getting their own electric 1/8 scale buggies ready in the next year.
__________________
Ed Toth

LCRC Raceway and Bumps & Jumps.
Ed237 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 10:18 AM   #20
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Huntington Beach Ca
Posts: 50
Send a message via AIM to Trever Adamo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cherry View Post
4w is stronger than ever now days !


and
4w speeds are way faster than 2w thus they break when they hit something...
Exactly!!!
__________________
TLR
Team Novak
Imagine graphics
Novarossi
Trever Adamo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 01:01 PM   #21
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The OC
Posts: 291
Default

There's a lot of great things with 1/8 scale 4wd for durability compared with 1/10 scale racers:

1. gear diffs
2. center diffs for great steering and may eliminate the need for a slipper
3. overall stronger parts

Costs are close because most 1/10 use expensive carbon fiber main chassis, while the larger 1/8 scales use less expensive aluminum chassis.

What's better? That depends on your local track size and layout.

Last edited by haulin79; 11-13-2008 at 01:11 PM.
haulin79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 01:46 PM   #22
Tech Champion
 
Jason Pelletier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 8,820
Trader Rating: 33 (100%+)
Default

When some of you guys become better drivers you will realise that 4wd electrics are stronger then they have ever been and will not break your cars as much.

To be on top with a 1/8th scale car you still have to tear it down all the time. It's no different.
__________________
Island Raceway & Hobby
Jason Pelletier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 02:03 PM   #23
Tech Fanatic
 
gndprx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Fort Mill, SC
Posts: 791
Trader Rating: 18 (100%+)
Default

I've only busted one part on my Academy SBV2 so far and that was out of driver error on my part.

I've watched the B44 take a beating far worse than most other cars and still keep going strong.

If you take the XXX-4 out of the mix, most of the 4wd cars on the market today are plenty strong.

Just remember, 4wd are not built for bashers, they are built for racers.
gndprx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 02:06 PM   #24
Tech Champion
 
Jason Pelletier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 8,820
Trader Rating: 33 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gndprx View Post

Just remember, 4wd are not built for bashers, they are built for racers.

Amen !
__________________
Island Raceway & Hobby
Jason Pelletier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 02:36 PM   #25
Tech Master
 
Ed237's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Dudley PA
Posts: 1,431
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Default

I dont think that a vehicle which that you can really only use at a track is necessarily a good thing.

An 1/8 electric buggy is a race vehicle that you can bash hard as well.

Once nitro/electric race cars and bashers used 90% of the same parts hobby shops could actually afford to carry the parts for your vehicle.

There are so many upsides to electric 1/8 scale that its impossible to deny that they are the future.
__________________
Ed Toth

LCRC Raceway and Bumps & Jumps.
Ed237 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 02:51 PM   #26
Tech Master
 
Marzac2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,044
Trader Rating: 12 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RB FIVE View Post
When some of you guys become better drivers you will realise that 4wd electrics are stronger then they have ever been and will not break your cars as much.

To be on top with a 1/8th scale car you still have to tear it down all the time. It's no different.
Not for me and most of my friends. We normally finish at the top of our class (expert buggy/truggy) and we don't do a whole lot to our cars. We've been in this hobby since the 90's and started in 1/10th electric. 1/8th maintenance is NOTHING compared to 1/10th. Shocks and diffs alone.
__________________
Tekno RC - EB48 and SCT410
DE Racing - Wheels and accessories
Tekin ESCs / Hitec Servos and Chargers
Marzac2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 03:19 PM   #27
Tech Master
 
chewiefttc4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: algonac, mi
Posts: 1,552
Trader Rating: 26 (96%+)
Send a message via AIM to chewiefttc4 Send a message via Yahoo to chewiefttc4
Default

I work on my b44 twice as much as my e rc8
chewiefttc4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 03:58 PM   #28
Tech Addict
 
Metla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 631
Default

I have no complaints about the durability of modern race spec 4WD buggies, Mine have survived what I thought to be killing blows.

And only time will tell if 1/8th electric is a fad or a long term trend, Bigger cars and faster motors require more space to run them and I'd bet the vast majority of back yard bashers are content with a mild motor and 20 minutes of run time from a $10 battery.my car running brushless is way to fast for the back lawn
Metla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 04:23 PM   #29
Tech Master
 
Bulldawg RC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,941
Trader Rating: 65 (99%+)
Default

i believe that a lot of the times it is not the car but the driver. this is a very popular class because of the amount of speed that is packed into a small 1/10th scale car. This makes a lot of novice/amateur drivers want to own one because they may see others drive them so well and keep them in control but soon enough they find out that this fast little rocket can not be driven like a stock t4 or b4 and take the beating at mod speed. These cars are very durable within reason. Not meant for bashers but of course everyone has the right to own one. the more the merrier, just don't hack me.....hahaha.
__________________
Bulldawg R/C Batteries and Products
Nimh and Lipo Batteries and accessories
www.BulldawgRC.com
Team Driver for: Proline, Team Epic/Trinity, Hex Crew, Bulldawg R/C, Speed Demon Hobbies ~~~~TEAM CRUNCHY~~~~
Bulldawg RC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 05:59 PM   #30
Tech Fanatic
 
gndprx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Fort Mill, SC
Posts: 791
Trader Rating: 18 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed237 View Post
I dont think that a vehicle which that you can really only use at a track is necessarily a good thing.

An 1/8 electric buggy is a race vehicle that you can bash hard as well.

Once nitro/electric race cars and bashers used 90% of the same parts hobby shops could actually afford to carry the parts for your vehicle.
I don't disagree that electric 1/8 is cool.

However if a person is looking for a vehicle that is track and bash worthy, then they should not be looking at a 1/10 4wd to begin with. There are plenty of other choices out there that meet this need...including the e-1/8, slash, slayer, e-revo, e-maxx, rustler, t4, the list goes on and on.

But to address the need for a tougher 1/10 4wd I still say that they are plenty durable when driven like they were intended.

The only truely fragile buggy is the xxx-4. AE, Kyosho, Academy, Tamiya, etc...all make some pretty tough 1/10
gndprx is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 06:17 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net