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Old 09-13-2008, 03:39 AM   #1
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hi there new to eletric buggys im buying the associated b44 and want a good brushless system but i need to know what i need to get the full thing running
i have seen the novak 5.5 brushless system ill get but what else do you need to be up and running i would like to be lipo as ill be converting my nitro reciever batteries into lipos .also what lipo batteries do i need for the b44
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Well if your just starting out you don't need a 5.5 brushless. Start out with a 7.5 to 10.5 for a year or so.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:31 PM   #3
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Well if your just starting out you don't need a 5.5 brushless. Start out with a 7.5 to 10.5 for a year or so.
+1 on that. Get the 10.5.
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...for a year or so.
Whoa, you're setting the timeframe of this person's learning curve?
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Whoa, you're setting the timeframe of this person's learning curve?
That's what I was thinking. Would you tell a noob not to drive a B44 with a 13t brushed motor and a lipo? I don't seem to have any issues jumping into it with this setup, in fact I'm on the lookout for a mamba 6900 system right now...just because it might take you a year to learn how to drive with a 10.5 doesn't mean it'll take him a year.
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I jumped right into a Mamba Max 5700 setup, it took me one trip to the race track to learn and wield the tremendous power brushless offers. I'm no genius, so it'll just take you a few tries to get used to it...
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Old 09-14-2008, 04:37 AM   #7
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cheers for the replies when i said new to electric i have loads of nitos 3 of them truggies that run ab moded os21 so i am used to power my question is what else do i need apart from the kit and the brushless system and batteries .does everything i need come with the kit and brushless system do i need connectors ?any help needed as ill be buying the kit first then the brushless system and anything else i need
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Hey guys,
Has anyone got any pinion gear recommendations for an orion vortex 10.5 in a b44 (standard spur)?
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Honestly Tekin makes a very good setup, and if you do go with a faster motor you can turn it down in the ESC.
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cheers for the replies when i said new to electric i have loads of nitos 3 of them truggies that run ab moded os21 so i am used to power my question is what else do i need apart from the kit and the brushless system and batteries .does everything i need come with the kit and brushless system do i need connectors ?any help needed as ill be buying the kit first then the brushless system and anything else i need
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as far as connectors, its really is up to you and what you get. some battery's use the bullet connectors others...use Deans or what ever you want.

The kit doesnt come with a rear swaybar kit which you will want to have along with some extra parts.

Just a suggestion, as far as the motor I always suggest a 7.5 to start because its a good motor for large and small tracks. Plus you will break less parts.
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cheers guys a lot to think about ill start buying bits soon!
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I would like to hopefully clarify "What up?" comments (correct me if I'm wrong What up?)

I think what he meant to say was, make sure you are using any connectors that have low resistance and with a high amperage rating. Some of the connectors that comes to my mind are:

1) Deans Ultra Plug - These are probably the most popular in the high-end (implying high amperage batteries, high power electric motors) electric scene. They are a bit pricey, but hey, they are great connectors

2) Duratrax Powerpoles - These are the ones I use. I don't know how long many of you have been around the RC scene, but these connectors were the KING of connectors a long time ago. Dean's connector at the time came close, but these connectors are more then capable and comparable to Deans ultra...

3) Castle Creations Bullet Connectors - Just visually inspecting these connectors tells you that they are of high quality and can carry TONS of current (low resistance). Its contact points are of very tight fit, telling you that it is making good contact. Plus it's gold coated (copper is a better conductor then gold but gold doesn't work as "hard" as copper). They are the standard connectors that comes with their brushless systems, so you know they chose these types of connectors for a reason.

4) Direct Solder - Ok, these are connectors, but you cannot beat this. Assuming you have a good solder joint, you cannot beat this connection. The weakest link in a power system is its connectors. The wires themselves can carry a tremendous amount of current, but the connection point is often the weakest link... Directly soldering to a point makes the weakest link the wire (which is easy to fix, just step up the size )



Any of these four options is good for brushless and lipo combo. Remember that if you are considering this combo, power handling and power management becomes an issue. They're no longer an issue if you pick the right wires and connectors...


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I forgot to mention, avoid Tamiya connectors for ANY applications. They're not even good enough for a NiMH + Brushed mod motor applications.
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