xxx-t pushing???

Reply

Old 07-05-2008, 06:22 PM
  #1  
Tech Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (22)
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 382
Trader Rating: 22 (100%+)
Default xxx-t pushing???

I am having trouble with my xxx-t pusing hard in the corners. I have tried different springs, adjusting the springs, shifting the battery to the front and moving the shocks from the #1 hole to #2 hole all around. Are there any other things I can try. Pretty new to off road. Track has a few "S" turns
in it and it is going vry wide.
ghj1997 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2008, 06:25 PM
  #2  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (40)
 
K_King's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 4,202
Trader Rating: 40 (100%+)
Default

Post your complete setup here as well as the track dirt type and tire used.
K_King is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2008, 06:26 PM
  #3  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (38)
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 876
Trader Rating: 38 (100%+)
Default

Pushing the battery to the front won't increase your steering. Move it back and you'll get more steering. Think of it this way. If you are pushing a grocery cart with a couple 12 packs of soda, it is easier to steer if the soda is in the back of the cart.
mattnin is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2008, 11:17 PM
  #4  
Tech Rookie
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 19
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Tires all the way...

Throw some softer tires on the front, or harder tires on the back.
Rushmb is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2008, 11:39 PM
  #5  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (40)
 
K_King's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 4,202
Trader Rating: 40 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by mattnin View Post
Pushing the battery to the front won't increase your steering. Move it back and you'll get more steering. Think of it this way. If you are pushing a grocery cart with a couple 12 packs of soda, it is easier to steer if the soda is in the back of the cart.
Thats in correct because moving the weight back will increase the grip of the rear, which means it will push more overall.

Your analogy doesnt fit RC cars because no tires on an RC car can spin 360 degrees or pivot that fast.

Moving the battery forward would increase steering, but I doubt that is the issue.
K_King is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2008, 06:50 AM
  #6  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (39)
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: anywhere I can race 2wd dirt,and 1/12 onroad in MI.
Posts: 3,405
Trader Rating: 39 (100%+)
Default

its a losi , it pushes like a dump truck any way..LOL. nah just kidding. as mentioned before its probally a tire issue, but you could just have your front end set up too hard to get good steering out of it, also camber has a lot to do with it. try a camber link set-up that allows more contact patch while you get chassis roll in the corners. That is where I would start instead of moving the battery around. Doing all that weight jostling can cause some poor flight charicteristics.
2wdMod is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2008, 07:24 AM
  #7  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 303
Default

Originally Posted by mattnin View Post
Pushing the battery to the front won't increase your steering. Move it back and you'll get more steering. Think of it this way. If you are pushing a grocery cart with a couple 12 packs of soda, it is easier to steer if the soda is in the back of the cart.
We're not racing grocery carts, and though you might be the local Pick-n-Save or Saves-a-Lot or Albertson's champion your suggestion is just making you look foolish on an RC forum.
theDr is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2008, 07:30 AM
  #8  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 303
Default

Originally Posted by ghj1997 View Post
I am having trouble with my xxx-t pusing hard in the corners. I have tried different springs, adjusting the springs, shifting the battery to the front and moving the shocks from the #1 hole to #2 hole all around. Are there any other things I can try. Pretty new to off road. Track has a few "S" turns in it and it is going vry wide.
As K_King mentioned ~ "Post your complete setup here as well as the track dirt type and tire used."

So much goes into a proper set-up ~ from tires, to shocks (including springs and oil weights being used, and mounting points), to camber and caster and toe-in/out setting, to battery placement, to ride height. A lot of things.

Anyone knowledgeable is going to need a lot more information to help you out, as well as you staying online or checking in more often the once a day for replies ~ while the inexperienced posters and internet-experts are going to come up with all sorts of off-the-wall mumbo-jumbo based off the little bit of info you provided.

Also, keep in mind that 2wd trucks and buggies have some inherent push designed into them. The reason is that with the majority of the weight in the rear half of the vehicle and the physics of the platform is that they want to swap ends very easily.
That being said, 2wd racing takes a bit of an educated finger to navigate them like a pro - so if you're heavy on the throttle too much of the time you'll always find them pushing like a plowhorse.

Last edited by theDr; 07-06-2008 at 07:41 AM.
theDr is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2008, 04:10 PM
  #9  
Tech Master
iTrader: (67)
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,644
Trader Rating: 67 (100%+)
Default

Tires are always the first thing to change. After you have tires that work, the other changes should be only tweaks.

However having run Losi and AE both for years, Losi will always push some.
nutz4rcyktw is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2008, 09:30 PM
  #10  
Tech Master
iTrader: (102)
 
triggerman101's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: mid mo
Posts: 1,465
Trader Rating: 102 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by mattnin View Post
Pushing the battery to the front won't increase your steering. Move it back and you'll get more steering. Think of it this way. If you are pushing a grocery cart with a couple 12 packs of soda, it is easier to steer if the soda is in the back of the cart.
i heard something like this on a horizon hobby video.
triggerman101 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2008, 10:05 PM
  #11  
Tech Addict
iTrader: (22)
 
Bigshades's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 592
Trader Rating: 22 (96%+)
Default

Originally Posted by triggerman101 View Post
i heard something like this on a horizon hobby video.
......................................__.......... ......................................
.............................,-~*`¯lllllll`*~,................................... .......
.......................,-~*`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll¯`*-,....................................
..................,-~*llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll*-,..................................
...............,-*lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllll..................................
.............;*`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll,-~*~-,llllllllllllllllllll............................. ...
..............lllllllllllllllllllllllllll/.........;;;;llllllllllll,-`~-,...........................
...............lllllllllllllllllllll,-*...........`~-~-,...(.(¯`*,`,..........................
................llllllllllll,-~*.....................)_-..*`*;..)..........................
.................,-*`¯,*`)............,-~*`~................/.....................
..................|/.../.../~,......-~*,-~*`;................/...................
................./.../.../.../..,-,..*~,.`*~*................*....................
................|.../.../.../.*`..............................)....)¯`~,....... ...........
................|./.../..../.......)......,.)`*~-,............/....|..)...`~-,.............
..............././.../...,*`-,.....`-,...*`....,---........../...../..|.........¯```*~-,,,,
...............(..........)`*~-,....`*`.,-~*.,-*......|.../..../.../....................
................*-,.......`*-,...`~,..``.,,,-*..........|.,*...,*...|......................
...................*,.........`-,...)-,..............,-*`...,-*....(`-,...................
......................f`-,.........`-,/...*-,___,,-~*....,-*......|...`-,..................
Bigshades is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2008, 05:17 AM
  #12  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 303
Default

Originally Posted by Bigshades View Post
......................................__.......... ......................................
.............................,-~*`¯lllllll`*~,................................... .......
.......................,-~*`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll¯`*-,....................................
..................,-~*llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll*-,..................................
...............,-*lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllll..................................
.............;*`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll,-~*~-,llllllllllllllllllll............................. ...
..............lllllllllllllllllllllllllll/.........;;;;llllllllllll,-`~-,...........................
...............lllllllllllllllllllll,-*...........`~-~-,...(.(¯`*,`,..........................
................llllllllllll,-~*.....................)_-..*`*;..)..........................
.................,-*`¯,*`)............,-~*`~................/.....................
..................|/.../.../~,......-~*,-~*`;................/...................
................./.../.../.../..,-,..*~,.`*~*................*....................
................|.../.../.../.*`..............................)....)¯`~,....... ...........
................|./.../..../.......)......,.)`*~-,............/....|..)...`~-,.............
..............././.../...,*`-,.....`-,...*`....,---........../...../..|.........¯```*~-,,,,
...............(..........)`*~-,....`*`.,-~*.,-*......|.../..../.../....................
................*-,.......`*-,...`~,..``.,,,-*..........|.,*...,*...|......................
...................*,.........`-,...)-,..............,-*`...,-*....(`-,...................
......................f`-,.........`-,/...*-,___,,-~*....,-*......|...`-,..................

+1
theDr is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2008, 07:39 AM
  #13  
Tech Master
iTrader: (102)
 
triggerman101's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: mid mo
Posts: 1,465
Trader Rating: 102 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by theDr View Post
+1
+2 for 2
i was simply posting where i heard it. not saying that i beleaved it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NyMK-HRuMmE
triggerman101 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2008, 07:59 AM
  #14  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 303
Default

Originally Posted by triggerman101 View Post
+2 for 2
i was simply posting where i heard it. not saying that i beleaved it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NyMK-HRuMmE
Not the same thing, listen to the video turtorial again. There's a difference between on-power and on-braking steering.
theDr is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2008, 08:48 AM
  #15  
Tech Master
iTrader: (102)
 
triggerman101's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: mid mo
Posts: 1,465
Trader Rating: 102 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by theDr View Post
Not the same thing, listen to the video turtorial again. There's a difference between on-power and on-braking steering.
triggerman101 is offline  
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Terms of Service