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Old 09-02-2003, 10:44 PM   #91
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OS 2050 is what I'll be getting ... have to dig for those suckers though; and I thought the Novarossi pipes were expensive
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Old 09-03-2003, 07:08 PM   #92
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i dont know much about the 2050 but ive heard its extremely tough

i think its 3 chamber what does that do for your engine?

but tower was the only place i could find it listed and it was $125 and on back order

rdlogics pipe was $65 couldnt beat the price (untill these new ofna pipes came out) and the performance has been great
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Old 09-03-2003, 08:04 PM   #93
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so I've been reading, its an excellent all around pipe and helps fuel mileage too. Alot of the higher rank drivers have switched over to the 2050 apparently.

Durable, yeah ... its really thick! Expensive though, without a doubt.

I'm going to give it a try anyways; if its as durable as it is made out to be then it will more than prove its money worth.
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Like i said, I run a 2050. If it needs any more testing for durability than the punishment I have put that pipe thru then we have problems:-) I abuse my buggy so much that I am running my third chassis right now. On my third front shock tower and fourth steering servo. My buggy has taken a beating from hell. And that pipe is the only thing that is still holding up strong and spotless.

If u got the money and patience to find one then go for it. If not the choices that PTP Racing has suggested are the next best thing. He kicks butt at the track. He is up there with the out of town fast guys so if he says is good then I believe it.
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Old 09-04-2003, 04:25 PM   #95
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Hey guys, onto choice for a 2nd engine ...

What would you guys go with, for a smaller more technical track -I guess you could say a typical US style, but a tad smaller - between these two engines :

RB WS7II
Nova. -purple head- P5

I've heard the P5 has a little better bottom end, but the WS7II has better top end ... I would prefer a little better bottom end; but both the P5 and WS7II are long stroke engines; so I figure the WS7II would have pretty similiar performance on the bottom end?
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Old 09-04-2003, 10:14 PM   #97
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the p5 has incredible bottom end power

i think it would be the best suited for the smaller track

im actually thinking i should run a softer clutch spring sometimes because when traction is low im spinning the tires too much

ive really got to be smooth with the throttle if i want to run a good line

the track here doesnt really have a long straight because there is a jump in the beginning

if i come off that jump behind another car i have to let up or i will rear end them
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Old 09-04-2003, 10:24 PM   #98
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Nice .. well that settles that one

Too bad the P5 doesn't look as cool as the WS7 haha =) I can't help it when it comes to the cool looking stuff; I'm a sucker when it comes to the looks department :P
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i like the blue rex head but didnt care for the novarossi purple so i sand blasted it

i dont like the rb orange either though

my friend has a p5 with a c4 head on it the same size as the ws7 2 head that he had blasted also

i want an odonnel head but they are almost impossible to find and too expensive
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haha yeah, exactly .. the OD heads are cool looking, but good luck finding them!

I kind of like the look of the WS7II with the black case, and orange head though personally. Although, nothing beats the look of the Rossi .21 Black Magic :P *drools* hehe

Have you seen the new Mugen P5 heads? They look pretty nice ... gun metal grey, and a slightly lighter blue than the OD heads, and darker than the Rex heads ... looks nice.
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Nah, I don't think the bigger heads offer any performance advantage really.

Perhaps to a small extent, but the overly huge heads especially tend to 'mask' an overly lean mixture. This is true for those who tune by temp. You may be getting a reading 50deg lower than you're used to; so you lean and lean it out until temps rise ... but when doing that you're forgetting that there is less and less lubrication flowing through your motor!

Have to be careful with aftermarket heads ... can kill your engine without knowing it

I would think Novarossi and the like know what they're doing .. and include the size of head they do for a reason.
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i am really glad you added the link i couldnt find anything about the when i looked last night

i think those look great

do either of you know what the aproximate cost would be in dollars i saw what probably said 6000 yen
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I'm out to lunch when it comes to the price of them

I'd like to know myself actually.

Usually the Mugen engines are priced pretty decently; so I would expect the same with these.

For reference anyway, 6,000JPN yen is ~$52US
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i will have to keep an eye out for one

im not that intersested to pursue getting one but if i saw it in the store or on ebay i would probably get one

$52 isnt too bad considering odonnel heads are at least $100 and anything close to an odonnel like nocer is around $70
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