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Old 06-11-2008, 10:52 PM   #1
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Default NEW JConcepts molded 1/10th buggy tire insert

Sorry to the JConcepts guys, but i figured if this thread got enough attention from people that maybe you guys would consider making them. I personally think that the foams for 1/10th scale buggies SUCK, they are too big (not just your And-1 foam, but all foam), and not even close to the right shape. They make gluing up a set of tires hard, unless you trim off the inside and outside edges, which can never be done perfectly. Resently I bought a Tamiya Durga, and the kit tires came with molded inserts from GRP (but GRP doesn't sell the inserts separately you have to buy the Tamiya kit tires @ $9.99 a set). Guess what? Those tires were the easiest set of tires to glue that I have done in 15 years in this hobby, and they worked really good too. PLEASE consider making some 1/10th scale buggy molded inserts (4wd Front too). How does everyone else feel about this?
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if ya made some tires and foams that did not need triming that would be great
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If Jconcepts tires came with molded inserts I would definately consider them much more often than any other brand. Plus you could use those molded inserts in tires from other manufacturers, which would be wicked.
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I would rather see pre-mounted tires from JConcepts. They sell Tires, Inserts, and wheels....lets get those guys some glue!
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I would rather see pre-mounted tires from JConcepts. They sell Tires, Inserts, and wheels....lets get those guys some glue!
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Who says the Durga comes with GRP inserts? don't tamiya make their own?
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I have requested this (molded inserts for 10th scale off road) from all of the manufacturers and none of them have stepped up and produced one yet.
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-1 if they don't pretrimm the foams or do a molded foam.
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Pre-trimming regular foams would add $$$ to the production cost as I don't think there is an easy way to do it when they are made.

A lot of companies keep mentioning molded 10th scale buggy, hopefully someone steps it up and actually produces them.
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Awww man... I got all excited when I read the topic. Now I find out it was just a teaser! Anyway, I think it would be cool to see molded inserts for 1/10 buggy (2wd and 4wd).

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Who says the Durga comes with GRP inserts? don't tamiya make their own?
No - the DI/KH/Durga tyres and inserts are made by GRP.

Molded inserts are long overdue in off-road buggies - I think they use them in 1/8th already too ?
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My Jconcepts tires seem to work fine without trimming the foam inserts.
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My Jconcepts tires seem to work fine without trimming the foam inserts.
All tires do work "fine" with the inserts just cramed into them, however if you take the time and effort to trim the foams the tires will work better because the the foam isn't all bunched up. Ever take just a tire (no insert) and put it on the rim? Notice how perfectly the tire and rim fit together? Now cram the uncut foam in there and try to get the tire and rim to match up. If you trim the foam the tire isn't all streched out and the bead of the tire will actually sit in the bead of the rim. The problem with that is there is no way to trim the foams perfectly. So if you mess up and trim a little too much then that tire will work a little diffrently then the rest. Ever glue up a set of tires and think, "man these turned out pretty good". Only to put them on your car and have them wobble because they are out of ballance? Molded inserts would solve all these problems. 1). They would be plug and play, just take them out of the package and put them in the tire. 2). They would make the tire a whole lot easier to glue up, no more having to force the bead onto the rim with a bunch of rubber bands. 3). They would be more consistant, the tire wouldn't be streched out by too much foam (not trimming), or be unsupported by not enough foam (trimming a little too much). 4). The tires would be closer to being ballanced, this is caused by several different factors, most of which have to do with the foam. Too much foam bunched up (un-trimmed), not enough foam (trimmed too much), and the tire not being able to be seated against the bead all the way. 1/8th scale buggy has gone to molded inserts, why can't we? There is an obvious demand, they will work better, be easier to use, and nobody else is making them (it's an entire untapped market that nobody is supporting). What other reasons could JConcepts need? Plus they already make molded 1/8th scale inserts, so all they would need to do is make a mold for 1/10th scale inserts (I know there might be a few other factors like testing and ect and I also know that a mold isn't cheap) and start popping them out

Come on everyone this thread had over 400 views in a day and a half. There is definately a demand for molded inserts, but what we need isn't just thread views, we need thread post, so if you haven't already posted and are interested just throw a +1 in here. The more intrest people show the more likely JConcepts will do something about it.
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I was planning on going the Tamyia insert (toss tyres out) JC tyre route, but I'd rather just buy JC pre-mounts with a molded insert!
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