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Old 04-28-2008, 06:50 PM   #91
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It would be a sad day when people get into fights over r/c cars. I would probly sit there laughing over it though.
Yeh, I re-livened the post with a "There is a happy ending.." sort of conclusion and it turns to this

I am glad I have the XXX-T cr. I'm still a little sore about crap being missing from the kit but all that is in the backseat as I had a blast getting beat by Sport10 on Saturday. :/

I will agree with one thing you posted -- my XX in the mid 90's hit the track as a winner.

As for the turnbuckles, I don't see a need honestly, replace the ballstuds ($7/pr) b/c if they break in the tower you get a hassle or a new part. Turnbuckles? Put some extras in your pit box so you don't have to go home early... and back to the original idea of the thread -- I went through with the purchase of a 4wd electric instead of the 1/8 scale and I bought the associated instead of a losi.

Just because of availability the buggy to me and laziness on my part. I'm sure I'll spend tons fixing the B44 as well.

But, I'll abuse both of them trying to keep up with Sport10 and the other faster guys, so time will tell which mfg is a win, for me. One thing's for sure, I'll be reading THAT thread for tips before wasting a Sunday at the track practicing or posting a bitchy thread. :/
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You don't have to have Losi make you an Associated fan.....just buy the darn fan directly from Associated's website. Wait.....OHHHH...an "fan". Just kidding. Seriously, both companies have changed in the past few years, some positive, some not. As the economy weakens, both will have to get back to basics to gain and retain customers. As consumers, we vote with our wallets.
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Holy crap!!! With all the 'HPI vs Losi' and other peeing matches going on I thought I'd stumbled into the Junior High section (AKA the Monster Truck Forum).


I am very happy with the performance of my XXX-NT AD2. Still sorting out my XXX-4. Parts support for the AD2 is terrible at my local shops, and little better for the XXX-4. "We don't have it in stock". We'll have to order it..."

Thinking about getting a XXX-T MF2 or CR for my daughter to race. Might get an Associated RC10-T4FT instead as it's cheaper and parts support is better in my area.

For poops-'N'-grins, I raced the AD2 last weekend on road (with dirt tires no less, as foam premounts aren't available for the AD2) at a local Hobbytown parking lot race. A punk kid driving a Firestorm kept hacking me (and everybody else), and eventualy hacked me into a barrier for some popped-ball-cup action. After a quick pop-on-fix, still managed second place even after dropping a lap. How's that for Losi vs HPI?
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Holy crap!!! With all the 'HPI vs Losi' and other peeing matches going on I thought I'd stumbled into the Junior High section (AKA the Monster Truck Forum).


I am very happy with the performance of my XXX-NT AD2. Still sorting out my XXX-4. Parts support for the AD2 is terrible at my local shops, and little better for the XXX-4. "We don't have it in stock". We'll have to order it..."

Thinking about getting a XXX-T MF2 or CR for my daughter to race. Might get an Associated RC10-T4FT instead as it's cheaper and parts support is better in my area.

For poops-'N'-grins, I raced the AD2 last weekend on road (with dirt tires no less, as foam premounts aren't available for the AD2) at a local Hobbytown parking lot race. A punk kid driving a Firestorm kept hacking me (and everybody else), and eventualy hacked me into a barrier for some popped-ball-cup action. After a quick pop-on-fix, still managed second place even after dropping a lap. How's that for Losi vs HPI?

This one time this guy as the track was using a xxx-t. It had a 6 turn speed gem & slicks on it. The track was dusty & ungroomed. He kept spinning out. He even got lapped multiple times on his 1st lap. I guess losi just makes slow race cars after seeing him race.
There are just a whole lot more of those guys running firestorms then guys running losis & associateds. I went with the firestorm because it is the most durable of the 3 cars & it has all the same setup features that the other cars have, it is a t-4 clone w/ beefier parts. I have been racing for long enough to know how to set up a truck.
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there is a distinct difference in the what happens when a jet engine breaks vs when a RC car breaks

there is also a big difference in the initial and replacement costs

back to the subject.....
All jokes aside, the quality of the parts are not up to par with the reputation Losi has obtained over the years.

When I was younger, I always wanted a Losi. Until the quality comes back up to where it once was, I will be looking somewhere else. I really wish this wasn't the case, but this is life and we can't do anything about it now. But for the future, we can. I'll be looking forward, instead of back.

do not make the mistake of thinking this is a flame towards a company. It is specifically aimed at the quality, and quality alone.

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I have the same parts issues with my local shop. If you aren't bashing with a traxxas or hpi, they don't have the part and refuse to stock them. Ironically, I've had them order stuff for me and I can always get it through amain or the other e-tailers a few days quicker than they do. I suspect they let the orders accumulate for whenever the guy has a chance to order.

I've owned a few HPI kits as well. They were fine but I didn't buy them to race, I bought them to strap the biggest engines imaginable and take to parking lots to draw people to the hobby.

I'm interesting in you racing your NT/AD with the onroad classes. Is that just an outlaw class at your local track or what? Sounds like it was fun.

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Holy crap!!! With all the 'HPI vs Losi' and other peeing matches going on I thought I'd stumbled into the Junior High section (AKA the Monster Truck Forum).


I am very happy with the performance of my XXX-NT AD2. Still sorting out my XXX-4. Parts support for the AD2 is terrible at my local shops, and little better for the XXX-4. "We don't have it in stock". We'll have to order it..."

Thinking about getting a XXX-T MF2 or CR for my daughter to race. Might get an Associated RC10-T4FT instead as it's cheaper and parts support is better in my area.

For poops-'N'-grins, I raced the AD2 last weekend on road (with dirt tires no less, as foam premounts aren't available for the AD2) at a local Hobbytown parking lot race. A punk kid driving a Firestorm kept hacking me (and everybody else), and eventualy hacked me into a barrier for some popped-ball-cup action. After a quick pop-on-fix, still managed second place even after dropping a lap. How's that for Losi vs HPI?
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Man this thread has went to crap with all the losi bashing. I just want to say that my experience with losi has been very positive. My MF2 has been extremely durable with very little breakage in the time I have owned it. Heck, I still have the original front and rear arms on it after 2 years of racing it. Once I upgraded to better ballstuds in the rear shock tower the truck really held up. Losi's turnbuckles might not be up to the lunsford's standards but the are not crap either. Mine has survived without any problems. The quick change shock mounts are not needed because the stock setup holds up fine.
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I have the same parts issues with my local shop. If you aren't bashing with a traxxas or hpi, they don't have the part and refuse to stock them. Ironically, I've had them order stuff for me and I can always get it through amain or the other e-tailers a few days quicker than they do. I suspect they let the orders accumulate for whenever the guy has a chance to order.

I've owned a few HPI kits as well. They were fine but I didn't buy them to race, I bought them to strap the biggest engines imaginable and take to parking lots to draw people to the hobby.

I'm interesting in you racing your NT/AD2 with the onroad classes. Is that just an outlaw class at your local track or what? Sounds like it was fun.
That's exactly the scenario with my local shops regarding stocking and ordering parts. They do stock some Assiociated and Losi parts, but mostly just for the minis/micros, RTRs, and MTs.

The Hobbytown on-road racing is a just-for-fun kinda thing. It's an improvized parking lot track that they set up and break down in less than two hours. They have classes for the various scales and skill levels of on road sedans, an MT class, and a Stadium truck class. As this was the first time I've ever done any kind of on road racing (or even ran my AD2 on pavement other than up and down the street a couple of times), I ran in the 'Novice' class. You can run a car that would fit in any of the other classes in Novice (there is a seperate novice 1/18th scale class though).

There were two 1/10th electric stadium trucks (the firestorm and I believe a T4), my AD2, and two 1/10th scale on road sedans. In the two heats I was mostly getting a feel for things and experimenting with radio/car setup. Got it pretty dialed for the main.

It was funny...I'd pass a bunch of cars, get hacked by the firestorm, wait to be marshalled (while being lapped by everyone as this is a small track), then scoot through the field again once back on four wheels. Did that several times, until I popped the ball cup (with about a minute remaining). Still managed to hang onto second though. The crazy thing is that the hackin' firestorm kid won the race. He put everyone else off the track and/or on their lids more than once...

I'm going to run in Stadium Truck next time (probably with Proline Road Rage tires). Looking at the lap counts after the race I would have still been 2nd in ST by four laps (and probably would have had a few more laps due to not being hacked). The ST guys drive clean, and have had experience racing with other people on a tight track. I've gotta get away from the hacking kids in novice. Also, once I got my car dialed in (and now that I'm going to run better tires) I don't belong in novice anyways...

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This one time this guy as the track was using a xxx-t. It had a 6 turn speed gem & slicks on it. The track was dusty & ungroomed. He kept spinning out. He even got lapped multiple times on his 1st lap. I guess losi just makes slow race cars after seeing him race.
There are just a whole lot more of those guys running firestorms then guys running losis & associateds. I went with the firestorm because it is the most durable of the 3 cars & it has all the same setup features that the other cars have, it is a t-4 clone w/ beefier parts. I have been racing for long enough to know how to set up a truck.

What???

You see one guy running a crazy-powerful motor in a 2WD car (and his skills are so weak he's getting lapped multiple times per lap) and (based on watching this bonehead) come to the conclusion that "Losi just makes slow race cars" after seeing him race? Hand that idiots radio to Adam Drake (or any other racer that knows what he's doing for that matter), swap in a more sensible motor and some track-appropriate tires, and see how "slow" that Losi would be.....
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Old 04-29-2008, 02:17 PM   #99
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This one time this guy as the track was using a xxx-t. It had a 6 turn speed gem & slicks on it. The track was dusty & ungroomed. He kept spinning out. He even got lapped multiple times on his 1st lap. I guess losi just makes slow race cars after seeing him race.
There are just a whole lot more of those guys running firestorms then guys running losis & associateds. I went with the firestorm because it is the most durable of the 3 cars & it has all the same setup features that the other cars have, it is a t-4 clone w/ beefier parts. I have been racing for long enough to know how to set up a truck.
Now that I'm flip flopped...
Yeah, I definitely don't agree that losi makes it slow. Crappy ballcups, yup. Bad QA in the kit dept, probably. Slow? hell no. It's just a roller, nothing to be slow. I'm running a 10.5 novak gtb and lipo. At the Main Saturday where I lost -- I lost because I was hitting jumps like a crackhead, trying to make triples designed for one/eight scales, oversteering and essentially learning to drive the thing - had anyone with good driving skills (not me) been driving, I think my truck would have led the field. It certainly decimated on the Novice class. I rolled, got put back in the wrong lane, and still lapped those guys. It's definitely not a slow truck.

Off track, a nieghbor has a rs4 mt nitro, equipped with a 2 speed tranny. I put onroad tires, swapped the spur and motor for my 5.5, geared it like a speed T and I can kick his ass everytime in a sprint. An electric cruising at 60 mph is definitely not slow.
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Losi for ever.. Please revise the XX-4 WED let's get into the swing of things again! The Losi Lipo charger did burn up for me too...
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rofl, some of you guys need to get a sense of humor. You can be fast with several different platforms, but if you don't know what your doing then you can also be slow as all get out.
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I still like Losi but I do hate Horizon and am sad they got Losi. I think you need to check how tight you make your ball studs = very snug but not over tight. I tap mine 4-40 if in graphite. Use longer ones when needed.

I will not deal with Horizon as they are the biggest and only jerks I've encountered in 20 years of RC. I'm using;

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Losi is a GREAT race product (not for bashing) I run NOTHING but LOSI and i tell you what i absoulty love it. I have ran (raced) everything out there and who do i always go back to? (LOSI). All of you that say you have such bad luck with losi i have no idea what you are doing but if you take a losi to race you have a leader and i know that. I own a Losi 8B/ 8T/ XXX-T/ XXX-Tmf2/ XXX-Tcr and i love all of them great line of (RACE) products.
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Losi is a GREAT race product (not for bashing) I run NOTHING but LOSI and i tell you what i absoulty love it. I have ran (raced) everything out there and who do i always go back to? (LOSI). All of you that say you have such bad luck with losi i have no idea what you are doing but if you take a losi to race you have a leader and i know that. I own a Losi 8B/ 8T/ XXX-T/ XXX-Tmf2/ XXX-Tcr and i love all of them great line of (RACE) products.

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If you want a "real" Losi,...you should buy a Kyosho.
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