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#181
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LOL
I think he was just trying to be helpful.
You need to have a Y adapter for charging anyway. I have also have a parallel Y adapter for charging my 3s packs in parallel on the ICE since it can't do 6s
avrcguy's Fusion was rockin the track like a vandal that night lol
I think he was just trying to be helpful.
You need to have a Y adapter for charging anyway. I have also have a parallel Y adapter for charging my 3s packs in parallel on the ICE since it can't do 6s
avrcguy's Fusion was rockin the track like a vandal that night lol
#182
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Any charger rated for a 4S lipo can charge this way with no problems. Regardless of whether it's a single 4S pack or two 2S packs in series, the charger sees it all the same way. It's important to remember though that with this setup (series wiring) you are only doubling voltage not capacity. So you still want to charge at the same rate you would a single pack.
For example it you have two 5000mah packs in series you should still charge at 5 amp, but set your charger for 4S (or 14.8v).
Charging the packs separately is fine too but it will take you twice as long. Assuming you have identically matched packs (capacity and brand) you should be able to run and charge the two together without them getting out of balance.
Hope that all made sense.
For example it you have two 5000mah packs in series you should still charge at 5 amp, but set your charger for 4S (or 14.8v).
Charging the packs separately is fine too but it will take you twice as long. Assuming you have identically matched packs (capacity and brand) you should be able to run and charge the two together without them getting out of balance.
Hope that all made sense.
#184
You can build yourself a ballancing harness that actually will let you plug in your two packs & ballance them. I run a123 packs in my cars. Often times I will run them as a 2s 3p pack & charge them as a 6s pack.
#185
avrcguy and I talked about this already, and we are actually planning to offer a balance adapter/harness like partywagon is talking about, which will allow a balancer or balance charger to see the two packs as a single 4s pack. Something purpose built for this application. But there are so many different taps and such that we have some work to do...
Otherwise, you can also charge them in parallel, which is inherently self-balancing. (keeps the packs the same....but would require a balancer on each pack to truly balance everything)
Normally though, you should not have to balance all the time anyway. Topping off a couple times on race day should not throw them out of wack. Of course, if you know you have a pack that needs constant balancing... then you gotta do it. But most packs don't have any such problems.
Otherwise, you can also charge them in parallel, which is inherently self-balancing. (keeps the packs the same....but would require a balancer on each pack to truly balance everything)
Normally though, you should not have to balance all the time anyway. Topping off a couple times on race day should not throw them out of wack. Of course, if you know you have a pack that needs constant balancing... then you gotta do it. But most packs don't have any such problems.
#187
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avrcguy and I talked about this already, and we are actually planning to offer a balance adapter/harness like partywagon is talking about, which will allow a balancer or balance charger to see the two packs as a single 4s pack. Something purpose built for this application. But there are so many different taps and such that we have some work to do...
Otherwise, you can also charge them in parallel, which is inherently self-balancing. (keeps the packs the same....but would require a balancer on each pack to truly balance everything)
Normally though, you should not have to balance all the time anyway. Topping off a couple times on race day should not throw them out of wack. Of course, if you know you have a pack that needs constant balancing... then you gotta do it. But most packs don't have any such problems.
Otherwise, you can also charge them in parallel, which is inherently self-balancing. (keeps the packs the same....but would require a balancer on each pack to truly balance everything)
Normally though, you should not have to balance all the time anyway. Topping off a couple times on race day should not throw them out of wack. Of course, if you know you have a pack that needs constant balancing... then you gotta do it. But most packs don't have any such problems.
glassdoctor, I hope you guys do make these adapters. It'll make it a lot easier for guys new to the class who use 2S packs. I'm actually a big fan of using the 2S packs. But I think you should balance charge the packs all the time (as long as time permits). It will improve the performance and life span of the packs as well as make them safer (especially if you run the Novak system as one pack is drawn on more than the other. Same goes to those who pull 2S voltage off a 3S to 6S pack to run the fan, receiver, etc).
Best regards,
#188
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http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/963152.asp
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/18361
Are these the chargers you guys are talking about? 130ish doesent seem too expensive.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/18361
Are these the chargers you guys are talking about? 130ish doesent seem too expensive.
#189
Building a device that will wire up two packs in series is easy. 1st build a harness to wire up the two deans plugs in series. run a + wire to a deans side, then run a wire from the neg side of that plug to the + side of another deans & then run another wire from the - of that plug to the charger. Then take two 2s ballancing reciever plugs & wire them up to a 4s plug that will go into the ballancer. Here are a bunch of diagrams on how to wire up the ballancing plugs.
http://images.google.com/images?ie=U...num=1&ct=title
You will need to color code the plugs so that you plug them into the right spots when you charge. I charge my a123 cells like this because it allows me to charge a 2s 3p pack in 15 minutes w/ my 989. If you wire them up in parallel then it would take like 45 minutes to charge them.
http://images.google.com/images?ie=U...num=1&ct=title
You will need to color code the plugs so that you plug them into the right spots when you charge. I charge my a123 cells like this because it allows me to charge a 2s 3p pack in 15 minutes w/ my 989. If you wire them up in parallel then it would take like 45 minutes to charge them.
#190
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http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/963152.asp
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/18361
Are these the chargers you guys are talking about? 130ish doesent seem too expensive.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/18361
Are these the chargers you guys are talking about? 130ish doesent seem too expensive.
#194
avrcguy and I talked about this already, and we are actually planning to offer a balance adapter/harness like partywagon is talking about, which will allow a balancer or balance charger to see the two packs as a single 4s pack. Something purpose built for this application. But there are so many different taps and such that we have some work to do...
I could use something like that right now for align style taps.