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Old 03-23-2008, 09:38 AM   #1
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Default Caslte Creation Mamba Max VS Novak GTB system

I am looking to get a 1/10 truck (AE T4) and I was wondering what were be a good system. I looking to get a either 6900 or the 6R. I like the castle creation system because you can program them on a laptop.

What do you guys think? What is a better system?

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Old 03-23-2008, 09:46 AM   #2
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I have never ran the Novak but I love my Mamba systems. They are super smooth and real fast. If you are racing indoor I would recomend the 5700 system if your runing outdoor the 6900 would be good. I run a 5700 where ever I go indoor or outdoor and its plenty fast.
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i have had 2 novak system,,a 6.5 and a 5.5 very fast,,but last nite i drove a mamba 5700 system,,,by far the best system i have drove,,very very smooth as you role into the throttle it does break the tires loose but as you get more into the throttle it will pick the front tires off the ground very very powerfull system. If you want a novak i will sell you my 6.5 but thats just my opinion,,i have talked to guys that run the LRP and tekin systems and they really like them too,,
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my bad guys meant to say doesnt break the tires loose
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the mamba 5700 was way too powerfull. go novak
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I have never ran the Novak but I love my Mamba systems. They are super smooth and real fast. If you are racing indoor I would recomend the 5700 system if your runing outdoor the 6900 would be good. I run a 5700 where ever I go indoor or outdoor and its plenty fast.
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Im actually the opposite. I Love the Novak but have never owned the Mamba. For me attaching anything to a laptop and trying to seriously fine tune anything is not a good idea. I am not the type of driver that 1/10 of a second will matter, so that kind of tuning is far from necessary, for me.

Personally I like the ease of tuning the Novak and there customer support is second to none. Currently I have a the New Rooster with Lipo cut off running a 19t brushed in my b3, and I have 2 Novak GTB brushless ecs's and a 6.5, 7.5 and the 10.5 motors. I highly recomend Novak products.

For what ever reason I perfer the brushed 19t over the 10.5, thats why I have the Rooster in the buggy and the extra GTB on the shelf for now.

As for my B44 it has the GTB with the 6.5 and it is incredibly smooth and very fast.
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I run a MM with 6900 kV motor. Ever since the latest update that motor and ESC combo has really proven to be pretty competitive. I would probably recommend the 5700 kV motor over the 6900 kV. You get better low end punch than the 6900. Can't comment on the Novak stuff though but I can say I have passed quite a few Novak users on the track but I think that is more luck than overall skill. I don't think you can go wrong either way but if you want to save a couple bucks go with the Mamba.
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+1 For Castle Creations. I have both Novak GTB and MM, love them both, just like the mamba more. The extra tuning via laptop is excellent. Tons more features than the GTB, plus its sensorless. Very smooth, I have no cogging issues and I personally believe the system is more durable also. Not to mention that the sidewinder is only $127.00 for the combo
Also, I would have to agree that the 6900 is quite a bit for a 2-WD.
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+1 For Castle Creations. I have both Novak GTB and MM, love them both, just like the mamba more. The extra tuning via laptop is excellent. Tons more features than the GTB, plus its sensorless. Very smooth, I have no cogging issues and I personally believe the system is more durable also. Not to mention that the sidewinder is only $127.00 for the combo
Also, I would have to agree that the 6900 is quite a bit for a 2-WD.
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The class this summer will be a mod truck. The 5700 is compared to a 19t. I figure the 6900 will work good if I program in the low end to be very smooth even though the track will be a litte loose at times. I think people will be running the 6.5 or 7.5 at our track for the novak motors.

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The 5700 is compared to a 19t.

The 19t is no where near the speed of a 5700. Not sure if thats just a typo, or if you got some false info from somewhere. Comparing the 5700 to a 19t would be like comparing a Porsche to a Ford Escort.
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The 19t is no where near the speed of a 5700. Not sure if thats just a typo, or if you got some false info from somewhere. Comparing the 5700 to a 19t would be like comparing a Porsche to a Ford Escort.
The 5700kV motor is roughly equivalent in top speed to a very good 9t or 10t brushed motor on 6 cells.

Ok, You are right. This is the descrpition from Amainshobbies.com. I read it incorrectly.

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Ok, what do you think of the mamba max system? I will probably use the 5700.
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The 19t is no where near the speed of a 5700. Not sure if thats just a typo, or if you got some false info from somewhere. Comparing the 5700 to a 19t would be like comparing a Porsche to a Ford Escort.

I take it you work for Castle Creation. Even though you favor Castle, please let me know what makes mamba max systems better. Novak sells great products, but I want to see if mamba max systems are better, plus they are little bit cheaper (in price) than Novak.

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I take it you work for Castle Creation. Even though you favor Castle, please let me know what makes mamba max systems better. Novak sells great products, but I want to see if mamba max systems are better, plus they are little bit cheaper (in price) than Novak.

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Before I ever started to race for Castle I already raced the Mamba Max over others. My 2 main reasons is the Castle Link setup that gives me more versatility vs other speedos and the 2nd reason is I seen so many other brands thermal that I knew from reading and talking to others the Castle System could take more overall abuse.

Now that Castle has the 1.17v software the sensorless system is as smooth as any other systems I have tried from my friends. I have never found to have a disadvantage vs other brands I race against.

They are both nice setups but for my racing preferance I like the Castle product. Mine has been raced for over 6 months running offroad and everything works like the day I bought my first system. I run both the Mamba Max and the Sidewinder with 4600 and 5700 motors in my 2wd buggy. When I get my 4wd setup done I will use the 5700 or 6900.
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Now that Castle has the 1.17v software the sensorless system is as smooth as any other systems I have tried from my friends. .
What is the sensorless system? The main reason I like to try the mamba max system is because of the link.
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I have a ride with Castle so my opinion is obviously biased but I will point out some facts that show Castle's strengths over Novak. How many 1/8th electric conversions have you seen with Novak ESCs? I've never seen a Novak that could handle it but I have seen a LOT of Mamba Max ESC used for that and they weren't designed to handle that kind of motor draw, but they work great! Also, it could just be a conincidence, but every track I race at has had a really bad string of luck with GTB's going up in smoke in the last 6 months.
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