R/C Tech Forums

R/C Tech Forums (https://www.rctech.net/forum/)
-   Electric Off-Road (https://www.rctech.net/forum/electric-off-road-4/)
-   -   battery scare (https://www.rctech.net/forum/electric-off-road/207975-battery-scare.html)

BSS07 02-26-2008 07:58 PM

battery scare
 
when ever i charge my batteries......(15amp powersupply, duratrax ice w/banana plugs. my batteries are all doing it 4600 ep, 3300 matched).

towards the end of the charge i hear a crackling noise and my batteries are making short bursts of sparks where the banana plugs are connected to the battery....yes they are on correctly postitive with the positive and negitive with the negitive. what is this??!?!:confused::confused::confused:

no other metal is touching the connectors

jjkahler 02-26-2008 08:04 PM

Are the battery packs in the vehicle when you charge them?

BSS07 02-26-2008 08:26 PM

nope, there on top of the ice

Stallard 02-26-2008 08:37 PM

Sounds like the cells are venting. Not a good thing:cry:

Are they hot?

Do some cells feel warmer than others?

BSS07 02-26-2008 09:03 PM

no they feal all the same temperature. but all 6 of my batteries are doing it

Nik 02-26-2008 09:38 PM

how many amps are you charging them at?

if the cells are not hot, you could try and hook up a multimeter onto the batteries and see if there are any big spikes...and check each cells voltage...but since all your batts are doing it, it doesn't sound like a bad cell.

could also be your charger.. mabey try another and see if it stops? I think its nothing more then a loose connection or bad solder somewhere.

I mean, where is it sparking, the ends of the cells, or the connector you used? sounds like theres a short somewhere.

BSS07 02-27-2008 04:20 AM

well i can try charging it with deans instead of banana plugs and see what happens.....

SQC049 02-27-2008 05:28 AM

I don't know about the sparks, but it sounds like the cells are venting.

Jason Pelletier 02-27-2008 07:11 AM

Don't pit by me.

Crazy Carl 02-27-2008 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by RB FIVE (Post 4210643)
Don't pit by me.

Me either
I think pitting at 360 would be safer:sneaky:

BSS07 02-27-2008 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Crazy Carl (Post 4211324)
Me either
I think pitting at 360 would be safer:sneaky:

haha but evan also said something about venting when i asked him, like the battery's were realsing energy or something like that....

MikeXray 02-27-2008 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by BSS07 (Post 4211347)
haha but evan also said something about venting when i asked him, like the battery's were realsing energy or something like that....

Whats the peak detection setting on your charger set too? it's probably 2x as high as it should be.

Jason Pelletier 02-27-2008 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by BSS07 (Post 4211347)
haha but evan also said something about venting when i asked him, like the battery's were realsing energy or something like that....

I would never ask evan for advice.

Nay0k 02-27-2008 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by RB FIVE (Post 4211418)
I would never ask evan for advice.

ahahahahahaha

Dave H 02-27-2008 04:32 PM

It seems you are saying that the sparks are from the bannana connectors, not the batteries themselves, then I suspect the connectors are not making good contact. Not cell venting.

Are the connectors getting warm/hot? If so, it seems that they are warming up, and thus expanding slightly. Towards the end they expand enough that ya start losing contact, then the sparks start.

Low budget fix, crimp the connectors with pliers some to get a better contact. Better, new connectors.

Good Luck.

joe of loath 02-28-2008 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by Dave H (Post 4212056)
It seems you are saying that the sparks are from the bannana connectors, not the batteries themselves, then I suspect the connectors are not making good contact. Not cell venting.

Are the connectors getting warm/hot? If so, it seems that they are warming up, and thus expanding slightly. Towards the end they expand enough that ya start losing contact, then the sparks start.

Low budget fix, crimp the connectors with pliers some to get a better contact. Better, new connectors.

Good Luck.

yeah, that sounds like it. also, strange question, but are your batteries vibrating in any way? like, a wobbly table? could be the plugs bouncing round in the sockets.

T-REXX 02-28-2008 05:15 AM

to if u want I'll take a look at them on fro if your down

li racer 02-28-2008 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by BSS07 (Post 4211347)
haha but evan also said something about venting when i asked him, like the battery's were realsing energy or something like that....

Evan is the product of venting gone wrong
hes even the size of a Sub C:lol::lol::lol::lol:

BSS07 02-28-2008 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by li racer (Post 4214646)
Evan is the product of venting gone wrong
hes even the size of a Sub C:lol::lol::lol::lol:


lol

chewiefttc4 02-28-2008 02:49 PM

if you have the battery bars bent 90 degrees and have them laying against the side of the cell they could have rubbed through the shrink wrap and contacting the can.

i know i had to have some of my battery connectors like this for my jrxs and accidentally had one go through and had a cell overheat from shorting.

Jason Pelletier 02-28-2008 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by chewiefttc4 (Post 4214708)
if you have the battery bars bent 90 degrees and have them laying against the side of the cell they could have rubbed through the shrink wrap and contacting the can.

i know i had to have some of my battery connectors like this for my jrxs and accidentally had one go through and had a cell overheat from shorting.


Yea, he is right. You must always make sure those bars are positioned away from the outside of the cells.

chewiefttc4 02-28-2008 06:24 PM

if you must have them laying against the can heatshrink them..
use appropriate colors so you dont accidentally reverse the polarity. the heatshrink will also protect from rubbing through

wade7575 02-28-2008 07:18 PM

I would not trust Banana plugs myself because they might compress.I would use sermos connectors if it were me they also go by duratrax powerpole and lite speed.If you are racing that the way to go and even if you are not,why not if you are great run times on your packs.they are better than Tamiya plugs witch can melt,I've never used anything but sermos and never a problem never seen one melt can not say enough good stuff about them.They are like deans or Tamiya plugs where you have a male and female plug these are unisex,also another good thing is that the way they go together you can slide them so when put together they are sitting one on top of the other or side by side.The benefit to this is if you use a wire lead on your motor with a plug on the end of it so you can make motor changes easier is that because if you slide the plug's together one on top of the other on the power out side of your ESC you will not be able to plug the motor to the power in side of the ESC if you put the power in side plug's and your battery packs side by side.The other thing I alway's ask if someone want's to know what a good battery plug is do you have a local hobby shop close by if they say no then I will alway's tell them to use these and get a few extras,because it sucks for example if you use deans plugs and you need a new one and it is a male your needing and you olny have a female in your spare part's box that is now a thing of the past with these because they are unisex you will know if you have a spare sermos it will always work and they will not compress and come lose,but that's just my opinion.

chewiefttc4 02-28-2008 07:23 PM

not sure what car he is running those packs in. but some touring cars require those type of connectors or even direct soldering.


All times are GMT -7. It is currently 11:55 PM.

Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.3.8
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.