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Old 01-16-2008, 10:23 AM   #151
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Thank you Dawn and to ROAR for making the bold moves in the right direction to make Electric Off Road Racing popular again. I am finally glad to see li-pos and brushless become mainstream after spending 4 years getting bashed for the subject trying to save electric off-road in my area and bring racers back to electric for the same reasons they went to gas racing with longer runtimes/races and less maintence!

This day and the day you guys added the Li-Po Brushless Exhibition Class at the Nats last year with most of the big names in the off road side of the hobby racing in it made all of my efforts very worth while and I feel very proud to have been part of that!!!!

Now I can proudly say I am a ROAR member!!!!!

17.5 or 13.5 arguement is really a mute point anyway and I see 27 turn brushed dieing with the 13.5 class being the new popular (Stock) class anyway in 2009.

Li-pos hard case or soft sided...I am just glad to see them approved for all classes.
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When you say Lipo's are allowed, does that include all hard packs as well as soft cases?
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Old 01-16-2008, 10:50 AM   #153
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Never mind I found it in the rule book.
8.3.2.2.1 Li-Poly battery packs must have a hard, protective case that surrounds the cell(s) in the racing application. The maximum case size shall be as follows:
Length: 139mm +0mm/-3mm
Width: 47mm +0mm/-2mm
Height: 25.1mm +0mm/-3.0mm
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When you say Lipo's are allowed, does that include all hard packs as well as soft cases?
The rules state hard case and they have to be approved also!
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So when almost all offroad tracks pick the 13.5 as the stock motor, roar picks the 17.5. Way to go theres a blown $160.
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Old 01-16-2008, 11:01 AM   #156
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For 2009 Pro Stock will replace the class we call 19turn. This class will call for a 13.5 BL motor and ONLY a 13.5 BL motor. You can use the 13.5 at roar events in the 2008 19t/10.5 class too. Your motor will have a home.
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Old 01-16-2008, 11:02 AM   #157
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So when almost all offroad tracks pick the 13.5 as the stock motor, roar picks the 17.5. Way to go theres a blown $160.
$160 ? I don't know what motors your buying , but most LRP and Novaks are between $80-90 .
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i run 2 classes, need one for each.
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Old 01-16-2008, 11:06 AM   #159
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i run 2 classes, need one for each.
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Well im not gunna run 10.5 with a 13.5. God i love Roar. I can see it now a 30 tooth pinnion on my t4 with that 17.5.
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Old 01-16-2008, 11:26 AM   #161
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I personally applaud ROAR for making the changes! I think it's about time they allowed LiPo and Brushless at all levels. But there has to be some rules and they created some. There are a couple that I don't like, but I didn't find a way to participate or have representation in the meetings to set them so I'm not going to bitch and moan all day about them. I'm going to jump for joy that I don't have to buy new matched packs before every big race and take the $80 for a 17.5 as a drop in the bucket in comparison.
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So when almost all offroad tracks pick the 13.5 as the stock motor, roar picks the 17.5. Way to go theres a blown $160.
I think that is not the intentions of ROAR by what Dawn suggested

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We recommend local programs stick with what they are doing that is working for their integration of brushed and brushless motor racing. In 2009, 13.5 will be the Super Stock class.
I interpet this as for all local tracks to keep doing what they are doing as in 13.5 and 27 turn race together if that is the current rule followed until the 27 turn and 19 turn brushed classes are replaced in the mainstream with the new 13.5 Brushless only Super Stock Class in 2009.

Excellent move and advice from ROAR!!!!
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I am just glad to finally see some rules being put in place. I think that over time as the rules develop, it will be better for everyone.
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I can understand the hard cased Lipo's in touring cars, oval cars and 4wd buggies, But the 2wd trucks and buggies (T4,B4, XXX,XXXT and the MRC 2wd buggy) have a chassis that offers better protection for a lipo and the soft should be an option, for them. I run soft lipo's in my adacemy sbv2pro and have no problems. the car has a lexan underbody and i haven't wore through it yet. If need be i could lay a piece of 1/16 lexan under the battery to further protect them as well. Honestly i don't see the need for the extra expense, companies will jack up the price of the hard shell Lipo's if you exclude the soft ones. My track is going with RC-Pro rules, so these rules wouldn't hurt me. I'm thinking about those who are coming over from Nitro and newbs that could save a few dollars and get a good soft pack, over a required and possibly expensive hard pack
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well i guess its time to sell the 13.5s and get 17.5s
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