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Old 09-13-2007, 09:16 PM   #16
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im pretty sure a 4wd buggy does not qualify as a ripoff unless it comes standard with the same wheel mounting pattern. every single one that comes out things they've invented a better hex.
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I think this is a good 4wd for racers who wanna run kyoshos and a nice revision if it is gonna happen.
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im pretty sure a 4wd buggy does not qualify as a ripoff unless it comes standard with the same wheel mounting pattern. every single one that comes out things they've invented a better hex.
Good point.
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Looks to me like there will probably be a bunch of changes in the suspension geometry. The rear suspension is from the RB5, and the front arms, knuckles and carriers are all new. Plus they changed the front and rear shock tower, there is now more material in a few areas. As for the BJ4WE smilarity, I don't think there is anyway to arrange a 6cell car like this in any other way. The BJ4WE layout has the best weight distribution, best electronics placement, and perhaps most importantly the lowest polar moment of inertia. I think though that if you used the old ZX5 layout with a 5 cell pack you would reduce the front to rear PMOI, maintain good weight distribution and be able to get at things a bit easier, although the motor really needs to be moved farther to the front to get a smaller PMOI, so that would still nessecatate having 2 CVDs down the centre.
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Old 09-14-2007, 02:39 AM   #21
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car design is all about compromise.

its a case of choosing what you would like to trade-off over getting something you want. some people want low roll inertia and put up with high pitch/yaw inertia. some the oposite, some want to 'balance' all axis of inertia. each one will work better at doing something than the other, and would also suit different drives more than others.

I think it looks good, there are plenty of subtle changes that I am sure most of us don't know about in addition to the obvious weight placement ones.

4WD electric off-road is seeing a massive rate of development right now, this is a very good thing
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IMHO I think it is funny everyone says it's a copy of this, or that. I am just excited that there is going to be further development and companies are willing to try to come out with new products that will be faster, handle better and be more durable. Every class has a "blueprint" for the chassis. Touring cars are mostly copies of the Tamiya 415 Layout, 2wd is all RC10, 1/8th scale is the Kyosho buggies. It's what the manufactures do with the subtle suspension changes, parts support, and continued development that makes 1 car better than another. I rather have a choice than everyone running the same chassis from the same manufacture, but I also understand that you can only develop them so far until they all look the same.
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exactly, i look foward to this buggy, from the few pics that the oople site provided, it looks pretty damn durable. ive never dealt with the original zx5 how was the durability on that?
btw, thanks oople for that great review, wish i could be in japan
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exactly, i look foward to this buggy, from the few pics that the oople site provided, it looks pretty damn durable. ive never dealt with the original zx5 how was the durability on that?
btw, thanks oople for that great review, wish i could be in japan
The ORIGINAL ZX5 had some serious durability issues but they were worked out pretty quickly. It's pretty solid now.
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