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Old 07-28-2007, 02:22 AM   #1
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Default Novak Moves Toward Stock BL

Novak SS Pro 17.5 Brushless Motor [NOV3417] $80.00

The latest BL motor to get closer to stock speeds with 4 cell racing.

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Old 07-28-2007, 05:10 AM   #2
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is that going to replace the 13.5 for both 4 and six cell racing
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Old 07-28-2007, 05:55 AM   #3
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you use the same co27s in both cases right? (minor tweaks)

novak is doing testing with 4-cell because any change seems to be enlarged, so their testing results are more "valid"

the sintered rotor only seemed to make the 13.5 closer to a 19 turn brushed and the bonded is closer to a japan 23 turn "stock" then anything....most call the 10.5 (even rc car) close to a 16 turn, which is their "19 turn brushless"
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:59 AM   #4
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I think if they should've not used the sintered rotor for the "stock" class. It amplifies one of the advantages of BL which is the motor doesn't fade as the run goes on like a brushed motor.
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:01 AM   #5
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The 17.5 might become the stock BL motor for onroad guys who love to go slow, but 13.5's are great motors for stock offroad. They're just a little bit faster than a good brushed stock motor, which makes them an awesome choice for offroad noobs who aren't quite ready for mod. The days when BL motor companies needed to put out motors that are "exactly" like spec brushed motors are over because brushed motors have already become almost extinct at the club level. For all intents and purposes, stock has become the 13.5 class and 19T has become the 10.5 class. The sanctioning bodies need to deal with that fact and figure out a way to work 10.5's and 13.5's into the big races so BL users don't have to go out and buy brushed motors just to run their cars at big races.

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thats great. Brushless will be the future of electric rc.
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i invested in brushless and hopefully wont go back to brushed motors. i hope they make it where you can run the new stock brushless equivilant in some big races.
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i invested in brushless and hopefully wont go back to brushed motors. i hope they make it where you can run the new stock brushless equivilant in some big races.
Our ROAR Regional (Region 5, Ft. Wayne) allowed a separate 13.5 class. ROAR approved it as an exhibition class. So that combined with the 'invitational' brushless/li-po class at the last National leads me to believe that it's pretty much here.
I've been allowing 13.5 to run with our stock classes for a while now. I have come to the conclusion that they are faster. I feel bad for our new guys that have spent a lot of dough getting up to speed with brushed only to be made obsolete right away.
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I am suprised the brushed guys haven't complained then.

I wouldn't have a problem with brushed and brushless running together if the brushless motor was a bit slower than the better brushed stocker as they there is no advantage other than maintenance.
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:57 PM   #10
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Brushless is truly the way to go
I'm a nitro guy but brushless is saweeeet!

If I were one of your brushed stock guys running against 13.5's.. I wouldn't complain but my co27 would be spinning on bearings...
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Being out of the hobby for several years myself had a lot to do with the fact that i was over the maintenance and cost of racing electric with the current brush motors at the time, was less maintenance owning nitro so thats the path i went, brushless motors and big capacity batteries have revived my interest in electric R/C i think its a major stepping stone towards the sport being more affordable long term and more fun.

A shame we didnt have it 6 years ago.
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Brushless is great for lazy people like me. I meet 3 new guys today and they all bought brushless.

It will keep electric going.
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i like how you have bearings with a brushless stocker but you have to have bushings in a brushed lol makes alot of sense....
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This just in. Throw one of these in and your right back at faster than stock.

Its the new sintered rotor.

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/rotors/index.html
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its an SS PRO, so it already comes with a sintered rotor, and since its not officially released yet, it probably comes with the new upgrade rotor.
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