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Old 07-02-2007, 01:07 PM   #1
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Default Need input on running indoor offroad electrics on carpet

Our local carpet onroad indoor track is feeling the pressures of the swing to offroad and reduction in the interest of onroad racing.

I would like to propose to them some kind of scenario where they can set up an indoor offroad CARPET track for those of us wanting to go indoors in the winter and run our electric offroads. This means they can still run onroad and although it isn't dirt it still gets our offroads running.

I'm looking for information from anyone who runs or runs at a track that has tried this....

did you run on the existing carpet or put something down to protect it?
what did you use for jumps and elevation changes?
what scale works best? what tires work for offroad on carpet?

Any input, with words or pictures would be greatly appreciated.

Maybe if more of the onroad indoor tracks could do this and the offroad guys would support it, they could stay around!
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Old 07-02-2007, 02:37 PM   #2
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There's actually a large stadium crowd here in W. Michigan. They used the existing carpet with extra carpet put over landing areas. Jumps were made of ply-wood w/ solid wood frames. There is a good 50% split between guys running rubber tires and foam. There are a couple guys at our track that we would just buy the rims and foam, pay them a little extra, and they would glue and true them for ya. The ideal situation would be to have two separate tracks, one for each. After a couple weeks, the trucks would start cutting holes in the carpet. Seems there's not enough extra carpet to lay down to cover everyones landing zone. On a good Sat. morning, we would have 15-20 on-road guys. Stadium racing was Sat. night, drawing anywhere from 30-60 entries. That's how they paid the bills.
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We do the exact same thing (www.michianarc.com) although we run them at the same time as the onroad guys. We get a crowd of about 50-60 every friday night. some guys run both road course and offroad. Our track, it only takes about 2 minutes to pull the plow disks and ramps off the track.

Carpet..yes, we have a few holes, but this year we will be putting a tall nap carpet carpet behind ALL the jumps and under the plow disks to deter this from happening. It is also important to have say "tech" to look over people's cars from time to time to check for "loose screws". We've found they are usually the culprit of holes in the capret.

Check out this video....
http://www.michianarc.com/vdo/mrcr.wmv
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You're right. We mandate that all vehicles run tape covering all screw holes on the underside of the chassis. Most of the holes come from nose dives.
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Chassis protectors (or duct tape) on the bottom to keep the screws from snagging the carpet.

No buggies (exposed shock towers can snag carpet) -- stadium trucks only.

Plywood jumps, skateboard/BMX jumps (the black one in the photo).

We run mostly foam tires, but rubber is OK in sportsman or stock.

Stadium trucks on carpet is the best of both worlds -- all the fun of stadium trucks, with the dirt and dust.
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We've used some of those foam rubber floor mats- the ones that snap together- for landing pads. Take your extra carpet and lay it past them for those big jumpers.

corrugated plastic makes pretty good rumble strips.
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What do you mean corrigated plastic? would love to have a pic.

Our jumps and such are not too big. The track size is only 36x60.

Buggies..... I've been debating about the buggy thing this year. one of the semi-local outdoor tracks have a HUGE 2wd and 4wd buggy showing, could only help our attandance if we allowed them. We're planning on placeing 8' of carpet behind EVERY jump to help resove the carpet issue. We have the one table top, w/carpet behind it and havn't had any problems w/nose dives tearing up the carpet cause the std floor carpet is so thick.

were always looking for new "obsticles" to add to our track, so if you have any pics of obsticles you guys are using, post them here, I'm sure we would all like to see other ideas.
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We used corner dots taped to the carpet for a mogul-type section. We were running 8 min. stock buggy classes, but the truck guys complained and we got cut back to 5 min. Shortly thereafter, the buggy class dwindled and eventually died. The rubber tires were reserved to some sort of street tread, as well. No knobbies of any kind. Almost forgot about the wall turn. THAT was fun.
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thanks guys for the ideas
awesome vid
great pics
we will have to put something forward and see if they like the idea

any thoughts on which tires? who from?
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I would love to race at a place like that. There's no clean up! Just rebuild your shocks and you're ready to go.
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