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Old 05-31-2007, 06:34 AM   #16
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Had both ZX5 and XXX4G+..both are equally fragile...in terms of handling, both are pretty good..it's all up to personal preference...here's a clip of the TRF 501x, ZX5 and Cyclone D4....


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If it werent for saddle packs I would try the TRF501X They have very thick plastic arms. Its awful costly though.
So what about the Academy? I going to look up the Cyclone to, never knew they had one? If any one has a link it would be appreciated?
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:59 AM   #18
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If it werent for saddle packs I would try the TRF501X They have very thick plastic arms. Its awful costly though.
So what about the Academy? I going to look up the Cyclone to, never knew they had one? If any one has a link it would be appreciated?

Well..i feel for 4wd ep buggies..saddle packs are the way to go..it is alot more balanced than side by side layout..it's better in the air too....The Academy SB V2 Pro is a very good value for money kit...i've got the SB V2 (non pro model)..the buggy is well built, parts are tough and best of all..it's reasonably priced...The SB V2 Pro is a good choice...The Cyclone D4 could be bought at a good price at Hong Kong online stores or RC Champ from Japan...looks to be well built with quality parts...looks very much like the BJ4WE....
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Old 05-31-2007, 07:17 AM   #19
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All your better 4wd buggies are going to use saddle packs. For rough track capable cars look at:
Losi XX-4WE
Xfactory X-5
BJ4 WE
Kyosho ZX-5

I am not sure about the Tamiya never seen one in person. Of all the buggies the Kyosho seems to best fit your criteria. All the buggies that are frail can be adquately strengthened for the job with aftermarket parts. I myself drive the Xfactory X-5 and really like it.
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Well..i feel for 4wd ep buggies..saddle packs are the way to go..it is alot more balanced than side by side layout..it's better in the air too....The Academy SB V2 Pro is a very good value for money kit...i've got the SB V2 (non pro model)..the buggy is well built, parts are tough and best of all..it's reasonably priced...The SB V2 Pro is a good choice...The Cyclone D4 could be bought at a good price at Hong Kong online stores or RC Champ from Japan...looks to be well built with quality parts...looks very much like the BJ4WE....
I agree 100% I used to fun the XX-4 back in the day. Awesome car.
But I'm running Lipo and even though the packs can sit for long periods while running other types in different seasons. I would like to stick with the stick type of car so I can just run what I have. It will be a loss of performance some what buy I'll just have to add weight or break down and buy some saddle packs. Still haven't made up my mind yet. Around here I heard Academy parts are easy.
I would have to add weight either way
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Old 05-31-2007, 07:38 AM   #21
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All your better 4wd buggies are going to use saddle packs. For rough track capable cars look at:
Losi XX-4WE
Xfactory X-5
BJ4 WE
Kyosho ZX-5

I am not sure about the Tamiya never seen one in person. Of all the buggies the Kyosho seems to best fit your criteria. All the buggies that are frail can be adquately strengthened for the job with aftermarket parts. I myself drive the Xfactory X-5 and really like it.

Yes i agree..the Xfactory X-5 is a great buggy...well the Kyosho ZX-5 does not have a saddle pack layout but it handles rough tracks pretty good..it's a pity it's a tad little on the fragile side...The losi XX4WE is pretty fragile too but it's one of the best handling ep 4wd buggy ever made...it's ability to handle rough tracks is legendary...it's pretty good on smooth tracks too...The X-5 uses the XXX4WE suspension geometry and the efficient drive train of the XXX4...best of both worlds
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Old 05-31-2007, 07:47 AM   #22
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I agree 100% I used to fun the XX-4 back in the day. Awesome car.
But I'm running Lipo and even though the packs can sit for long periods while running other types in different seasons. I would like to stick with the stick type of car so I can just run what I have. It will be a loss of performance some what buy I'll just have to add weight or break down and buy some saddle packs. Still haven't made up my mind yet. Around here I heard Academy parts are easy.
I would have to add weight either way

Well if you could get Academy parts easily, then go for the SB V2 Pro..it's well made, loads of set ups..you could use saddle packs or stick packs and the price is great...from where i come from, there's no Academy parts to be bought...that's the only reason i'm holding back on getting the SB V2 Pro...
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:58 AM   #23
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Give the SB V2 Pro a look.

Amain hobbies is carrying it, stormer hobbies too, as well as ultimate. For the money, you get alot of buggy and its durable and handles extremely well.

Just wish racing around here supported the class or I woudl still keep mine.
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If it is all about running a stick pack, look for a used original BJ4 they are pretty cheap now.
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Without getting into which car is stronger, look at your parts availability. 4wd cars are gonna break. What will be easier for you to get parts for? I have a Lazer ZX5 and I love it. If my LHS does not have the parts I need, I can order from A-Main and they can be here in 2 days. I have never driven a XXX4 but I know from fellow racers that it's rough track handling leaves something to be desired. The ZX5, on the other hand, has an excellent suspension design.
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im gettign either the academy, or the ZX-5. as for which one i will have most fun with, all depends on which one can take the most big jumps and hard landings.
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For me, one of the best things about the ZX-5 is that the parts are CHEAP...and you can get them just about anywhere. Arms are super cheap, even a chassis is only $25-30 bucks. Front pin brace and tower braces...I boil the suspension parts...it takes a really good hit to break anything.

My XXX-4 was pretty tough arm-wise, but I lost a couple chassis (busted the corner holes out). At 40-50 each, it only took a couple and I sold it. It was pretty easy for me to drive, but DAMN the parts add up fast...LOL
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The sbv2 is probly the most durable of the 4wds.
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If you want a cheap stick pack car then go w/ the academy sbv2. You can pick up the kit for like $150 new and then drop a few extras on it to bullet proof it and have a new roller for like $200.
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i was just recently looking into it. seems good. and if its one of the most durable 4wds out, then thats probably what id like. i do like the fact that the ZX-5 comes with a front one-way, which i like having in my cars, but i could get around that. if it will be as fast and more durable, then thats what id like to get
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