which 4wd to get???XXX4 or Mr4bc2
#31
Tech Initiate
Fire...I know the B4 is a 2wd buggy...I talked to Mike Reedy at the Losi Race and he said that AE is working on a 4wd model of the B4...He called it the B44...Not sure what that mean but he did say it would be close to a year in the making.
#32
Tech Regular
Just get the schumacher cat 3000 I don't have one, but heard alot of good things about it. Very competitive
#33
Tech Master
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When is the xxx4 G+ comming out?
#34
is that a good idea?
Salutations Earthlings!
XXX4G+ ?
there is already someone on line making machined delrin to make it less prone to breakage.
i cannot imagine the kind of wear and tear you'll incur with all that graphite.
a graphite chassis is fine i guess, but definately not arms and towers ....
methinks.
-FP
XXX4G+ ?
there is already someone on line making machined delrin to make it less prone to breakage.
i cannot imagine the kind of wear and tear you'll incur with all that graphite.
a graphite chassis is fine i guess, but definately not arms and towers ....
methinks.
-FP
#35
I make the front arms of Delrin
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The graphite seems to be much more prone to break than the plastic. I also have the Team PRP Backbones and have yet to break an arm.
The car can be made durable enough with a few parts, but will always be a little more prone to break because it's 4wd. Heavier, can be driven harder, and more parts.
4wd is not a good class for any novice to get started with. Learn with 2wd buggy or truck and then advance to 4wd.
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The graphite seems to be much more prone to break than the plastic. I also have the Team PRP Backbones and have yet to break an arm.
The car can be made durable enough with a few parts, but will always be a little more prone to break because it's 4wd. Heavier, can be driven harder, and more parts.
4wd is not a good class for any novice to get started with. Learn with 2wd buggy or truck and then advance to 4wd.
#36
I have the chassis, it seems to be quite strong. Also, its stiffer. It seems a lil faster on conering.
I doubled up on the plastic shocktowers, I wouldnt get graphite shocktowers or A arms. The xxx-4 is pretty weak but by far the fastest offroad vehicle I have ever driven.
I doubled up on the plastic shocktowers, I wouldnt get graphite shocktowers or A arms. The xxx-4 is pretty weak but by far the fastest offroad vehicle I have ever driven.
#37
THAT IS GOOD FEEDBACK!
Salutations Earthlings!
thanks for the feedback!
i like to hear about your honest experiences with the car itself , stuff like parts breakage, wear, effects on handling blah blah.
i think Losi made an excellent car with the XXX4, but i've heard that the 1 belt transmission makes the car feel more subdued and "dead" compared to cars like cat3000 and yokes with one way bearings... these other cars tend to be more aggressive in turnings but lose out in the straight.
what do you guys think?
have you felt the same way driving the XXX4?
-FP
thanks for the feedback!
i like to hear about your honest experiences with the car itself , stuff like parts breakage, wear, effects on handling blah blah.
i think Losi made an excellent car with the XXX4, but i've heard that the 1 belt transmission makes the car feel more subdued and "dead" compared to cars like cat3000 and yokes with one way bearings... these other cars tend to be more aggressive in turnings but lose out in the straight.
what do you guys think?
have you felt the same way driving the XXX4?
-FP
#38
Ive personally never drivin a xxx-4 with a oneway, but have driven the xxx-s with one. It feels just the same as with any other belt car. The only thing is the CAT 3000 is more efficient on the belt, that is mabe what you are feeling the difference in.
#39
Tech Adept
looking at the durango it seems to have a slipper clutch (there seems to be a spring behind the spur)???
#40
I reckon the CAT 3000 is the way to go. That said, it would be ignorant to rule out the Yok BC Special - it's doing pretty well with Neil Cragg at the wheel (or should that be sticks?) - he's won the BRCA AND the European Chamionship with it!! He could be a worlds contender - watch out Losi. Then again, he could probably do just as well with a Cat 3000 or XXX4. ;o)
I have reservations about shaft driven cars for off road use. The Durango maybe good - but look at the price!!! That guy is extracting the urine. No way it's worth that sort of money. He must be laughing all the way to the bank.
I've seen some other prototype shaft driven cars based on the TC3 tranny with prototype white plastic bits etc. The tranny kept breaking all season, end of story. Now I know TTech Preds did well, but they were very labour intensive and parts failed regularly - I know, cos I owned a P8. The team drivers used to change the gears every 2 or 3 meetings and have 'several' spare chassis to hand for when the holes for the gear cases stripped!!! Not my idea of fun.
My CAT 3000 on the other hand is absolutely brilliant - spares next day, reliable, efficient, easy to work on and with superb handling. With tune up parts, the CAT 3000 is not only an awesome machine, but a truely desirable bit of kit.
I have reservations about shaft driven cars for off road use. The Durango maybe good - but look at the price!!! That guy is extracting the urine. No way it's worth that sort of money. He must be laughing all the way to the bank.
I've seen some other prototype shaft driven cars based on the TC3 tranny with prototype white plastic bits etc. The tranny kept breaking all season, end of story. Now I know TTech Preds did well, but they were very labour intensive and parts failed regularly - I know, cos I owned a P8. The team drivers used to change the gears every 2 or 3 meetings and have 'several' spare chassis to hand for when the holes for the gear cases stripped!!! Not my idea of fun.
My CAT 3000 on the other hand is absolutely brilliant - spares next day, reliable, efficient, easy to work on and with superb handling. With tune up parts, the CAT 3000 is not only an awesome machine, but a truely desirable bit of kit.